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    Victor Olidipo has moved up to number 9 on draftexpress. Some other sites have him moving into the lottery also. Hmmm. Comments?

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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    I hated Augustin coming out of college. Pretty much right where I thought he would be in terms of his career.

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    F*** IU. Trey Burke is the better player. He also suits our needs more.

    Oladipo is a guy I would definitely consider drafting if I'm an NBA GM, however.
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    Trey Burke is more CPIII than Augustin. Burke is the best ball handler in the country. He's a mature difference maker who will grow as a player. He's a great passer. Great shooter. Oladipo is a fantastic defender and a good athlete. I think they will both translate to the NBA well, but I see Oladipo as a career rotational reserve, while I see Burke being a solid starting PG in the better half of starting PGs in the league.
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    You mean the game where Trey Burke dominated the first half?
    Dominated?

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    He was 5/10 for 14 points to go with 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 turnovers. His team was losing 36-32. Dominant all right.

    I don't even know why I'm bothering with this.
    More than Oladipo in that half. You know he's better, you just say Oladipo is better because he's from IU
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    Dominated?
    Yep. D-O-M-I-N-A-T-E-D, dominated, to rule over, from the dictionary.
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    More than Oladipo in that half. You know he's better, you just say Oladipo is better because he's from IU
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    Burke did have one of the most dominant 9-for-24 shooting games I have ever seen, in that game vs. IU. /green

    I get it, he's a good player. Just don't try to oversell it, OK?

    Either would be a good addition, really, so I don't know why we need to denigrate either guy.
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    Burke did have one of the most dominant 9-for-24 shooting games I have ever seen, in that game vs. IU. /green

    I get it, he's a good player. Just don't try to oversell it, OK?

    Either would be a good addition, really, so I don't know why we need to denigrate either guy.
    You guys are overselling Oladipo way too much. I've seen mutliple IU games this year and yes he can score and he can jump, and play [B]DECENT[B] defense. The Pacers need a point guard because I highly doubt Hansbrough and/or Augustin will be around next year
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    You guys are overselling Oladipo way too much. I've seen mutliple IU games this year and yes he can score and he can jump, and play [B]DECENT[B] defense. The Pacers need a point guard because I highly doubt Hansbrough and/or Augustin will be around next year
    It's not just us "overselling" him. It's the national media, it's DraftExpress, it's ESPN, it's...well, everyone that doesn't hate him just because he goes to IU.

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    It's not just us "overselling" him. It's the national media, it's DraftExpress, it's ESPN, it's...well, everyone that doesn't hate him just because he goes to IU.
    No one hates him just because he goes to IU. I for one have come around on him after watching him more - however, people who have gone to college or HS in Indiana get blown up by people on this board. See the many Gordan Hayward > Paul George threads, or the 1,000 Eric Gordon threads. Warranted or not, people who have no connection to Indiana get annoyed by the countless threads to players from Indiana. I have nothing against IU, but I nearly hate Eric Gordon solely because of the homerism on this board for him. Has nothing to do with him as a player, it simply gets old.

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    No one hates him just because he goes to IU. I for one have come around on him after watching him more - however, people who have gone to college or HS in Indiana get blown up by people on this board. See the many Gordan Hayward > Paul George threads, or the 1,000 Eric Gordon threads. Warranted or not, people who have no connection to Indiana get annoyed by the countless threads to players from Indiana. I have nothing against IU, but I nearly hate Eric Gordon solely because of the homerism on this board for him. Has nothing to do with him as a player, it simply gets old.
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    Wasn't the Hayward>George stuff pretty much just graphic-er?

    I feel like I remember the majority not being all that interested in Hayward, I think he's become a better NBA player than most of us thought he would.

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    Wasn't the Hayward>George stuff pretty much just graphic-er?

    I feel like I remember the majority not being all that interested in Hayward, I think he's become a better NBA player than most of us thought he would.
    Yeah, I remember the Hayward narrative was basically just one guy's crusade, with maybe a few more fringe supporters.

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    Wasn't the Hayward>George stuff pretty much just graphic-er?

    I feel like I remember the majority not being all that interested in Hayward, I think he's become a better NBA player than most of us thought he would.
    The overall view on Hayward was to stay the hell away. Most on the forum were actively against any draft scenario where he would be taken.

    As far as Oden and Conley are concerned, there was never much buzz about them during the draft as there was really no way we were going to get them. I think most of the EJ stuff has come from the fact he might be the only guy in the history of the NBA with superstar potential that has come forth and directly stated he would love to play for the Pacers.

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    Not to mention there was a very real fact that Gordon could have dropped to the P's in that draft.

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    No one hates him just because he goes to IU. I for one have come around on him after watching him more - however, people who have gone to college or HS in Indiana get blown up by people on this board. See the many Gordan Hayward > Paul George threads, or the 1,000 Eric Gordon threads. Warranted or not, people who have no connection to Indiana get annoyed by the countless threads to players from Indiana. I have nothing against IU, but I nearly hate Eric Gordon solely because of the homerism on this board for him. Has nothing to do with him as a player, it simply gets old.
    You act like that is in some way unique to this board, IU, and Indiana in general. Go to a Bulls message board and I'm sure they do the same thing with Illni players. Go to a Bobcats board and I'm sure its the same way with Duke/UNC.

    It seems, you know, entirely natural. You're fighting a losing battle.

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    Wasn't the Hayward>George stuff pretty much just graphic-er?

    I feel like I remember the majority not being all that interested in Hayward, I think he's become a better NBA player than most of us thought he would.
    I liked Gordon Hayward in that draft. Certainly more than Paul George. Because I, as I assume 95% of people on this board, had never even heard of Paul George before the draft process and had never once seen him play.

    And Hayward has turned out to be a very good player. He's definitely underrated here though obviously not at George's level.
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    I liked Hayward in that draft. Certainly more than Paul George. Because I, as I assume 95% of people on this board, had never even heard of Paul George before the draft process and had never once seen him play.
    I'm an equal opportunity hater--I didn't like either one of them. I was a huge proponent of trading the pick.

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    Wasn't the Hayward>George stuff pretty much just graphic-er?

    I feel like I remember the majority not being all that interested in Hayward, I think he's become a better NBA player than most of us thought he would.
    Thank god for the Utah Jazz and their stupidity.

    But I agree, Hayward is already way better than I ever thought he could be.

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    Thank god for the Utah Jazz and their stupidity.
    But I agree, Hayward is already way better than I ever thought he could be.
    This sort of stuff, which is said all of the time by many posters, is completely asinine. The Utah Jazz are not stupid for taking Gordon Hayward. They got a very good player. The fact that a player taken later turned out better does not make them stupid.
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    The mood here is pretty thin. As a complete outsider(MAC fan!) who likes the college game, I'll weigh in.

    Oladipo, to me, is the better NBA prospect. "Decent" defense? Really? He could be the best on-ball defender in the country right now. He's brought his shooting up, has the ability to get into the lane, and rebounds well for his size. His athleticism translates, too.

    That's not to take anything away from Burke, he's a great(volume) scorer. His defense isn't as good or bad as people want to make it out to be, imho. In any case, I think there's a more realistic chance he's still on the board vs. Oladipo when the Pacers draft. But that's a slight chance as well, because I don't think either is available.

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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

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    I liked Gordon Hayward in that draft. Certainly more than Paul George. Because I, as I assume 95% of people on this board, had never even heard of Paul George before the draft process and had never once seen him play.
    I had never heard of Paul George, and I didn't know how to feel about the pick at the time. Thank you patient observation.

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