My vote is for A.
My vote is for A.
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B for me.....cuz that's when I became a Pacer fan.
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I was too young to really remember them. If I saw both of them live, hell, it's still hard (TWSS) to choose one, but the shift in emotions would probably do it for me, because with 8pts 9secs you probably didn't think we were going to win and were starting to prepare for the misery of a playoff loss, but then that all goes away and we sneak out a win.
Kind of like the close Colts games during the Peyton era and hell, the Luck era. The Green Bay game was probably one of the more satisfying wins I've been able to watch live and see in person. The Colts comeback against the Pats the 4th and 2 was like that, too. Sorry to derail this to Colts, but I love both teams dearly. I was just able to see those games live and in person.
I'd have to go with 8pts 9secs. If something like that happened in the playoffs this spring, I might have a heart attack.
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Yep. The fact that only minutes before Bill Walton was talking about how "horrible" we were made it that much sweeter.
When Miller hit that second 3 I can remember my dad, who rarely gets off the couch, literally jump up and hurl himself halfway across the room. He shouted at the television like a madman. Our cat, thinking he was angry, raced out of the room. If you didn't know any better you would have thought my dad was trying to cast out demons from the television.
To this day various family members ask me to re-enact it.
I loved the 25 point 4th quarter a little more, though. The entire nation knew who Reggie Miller was after that.
Imagine if that 8.9 happened at the end of his 25 pt quarter.
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8p9s is just the most memorable for me. It was the game that really rattled the Knicks in that series. And it elevated Reggie's reputation of clutch-ness to a whole new level. Imagine the faces of the crowd that were already celebrating just before everything happened then all of a sudden after 9 game seconds their hearts were crushed in a stunning defeat. Or the ones who left early thinking they won already 1-0 then after reading the early newspaper the next day they were shocked they were down 0-1. The most magical moment in NBA for me.
The 8p9s was epic, no doubt about it. When he hit that, I ran out in the street screaming... and there were other people out in the street screaming.
But the 25 point quarter was awesome in a different way. The build of emotions over that 20 minutes was incredible. It just kept getting better, and better, and better. At first, it was just "Yeah Reg show 'em we won't go down without a fight" and to build all the way to the win was great.
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The 25 fourth quarter was more epic simply because he sustained it for much longer and the drama was much higher. In both games the team was pretty much dead in the water so they were both surprise endings. With the 8 points in 9 seconds we were outplayed for most the game then just he basically stole it. it happened so fast it was kinda hard to take in but it was still awesome. There was quite a bit of luck involved for the 8.9 seconds. I always felt Reggie could've easily been called for a push in the back on the turnover.
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8 points in 9 seconds is the most amazing, but the trash talking during the 25 point 4th was glorious! He was saying everything I wished I could've said to the punk a$$ Knicks and their fans! Loved it!!!
I think the 25 points in the 4th quarter is more significant for many reasons.
It was game 5 of the ECF. The 8 pts in 9 seconds was game 1 in the second round.
The 25 in the 4th quarter is what first put Reggie onto the national spotlight. I still remember the next day when he and his performance was the talk of the sports world. The first time is always more significant.
That win put the pacers 1 win away from the NBA Finals. The win the following year put the pacers up 1-0 and they were still 7 wins from the NBA Finals.
I have always thought the 25 point 4th was much better than 8 in 9 seconds.
Also for those who think the 8 in 9 was better. I challenge you to go back now almost 20 years later and watch them both and if you can honestly tell me the 8 in 9 seconds was better, I'll send you a dollar
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Unclebuck just said pretty much everything I was going to say. If you're old enough to remember how bad the Pacers had been for so many years prior to the '94 playoffs, and just how exciting that first playoff run was, just about everything that happened during the '94 playoffs is going to be more memorable and special. Well, up until Game 6 of the ECF. Eight points in nine seconds was a great moment, but those two three-pointers can't compare to the seemingly never-ending barrage of shots Reggie just kept making in that Game 5 fourth quarter.
For me its the 25 point 4 quarter. I'll prob get crap for this but I still like his "push-off" three against Jordan to beat the Bulls over 8 points 9 seconds. That shot against Chicago tied the series 2-2 and assured that it would return to Indiana. If he misses that its 3-1 going to Chicago.
Like Buck said 8 points 9 sec was Game 1 and even though amazing, just didn't carry the weight of the other 2.
I love the trash talking, and Reggie going off, but my vote went for 8 points in 9 seconds. Why? Because it was a sucker punch to the groin of Knicks fans. The 25 point fourth quarter was awesome, but it doesn't have the same kick to the crotch feel, he just went off. Scoring a three, stealing the inbound and scoring another 3 to bring a team back and win is something nobody will ever do again in my lifetime (even though I've only seen the games replayed, since I wasn't born yet). High scoring 4th quarters in the clutch will happen again, but never 8 points in 9 seconds.
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The 8p9s was the definition of clutch, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. I remember sliding across the carpet on my knees after the second 3.
The 25 points should be the most important, but the 8p9s had the most impact on me personally.
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The 8p9s is a little more vivid for me, it's that moment if you are a part of my generation where you went out in your diveway right after the game and just took shots for hours and hours. REGGIE FOR 3! BOOM BABY!
The 25 points in a quarter, the 4th no less, is much more impressive from a skill stand point though.
Eight Points, Nine Seconds.
I claim a biased question is skewing the results.
Here is the question
As great as both were, which moment was better
The key word was moment. Although actually the moments that were both better: in order the Smits happens shot and the Reggie push off three against the Bulls.
I would put the Smits happens shot as a better moment because that was at the hbuzzer, Reggie's shot allowed Jordan to have one more shot
It's hard to look at an isolated playoff performance without also considering the end result. They're both amazing showings, but I have to give the nod to 8pts 9 secs because the Pacers ended up winning that series.
25 points in 4th quarter? We lost the series so what difference does it make.
Easily 8pts 9seconds gets my vote.
And yes, i saw them both live(or at least vcr live without knowing the results)
I agree. At the time that was easily the greatest win in Pacers NBA history. There was no close second. The Pacers were on a Cinderella run. We had finally won a playoff series, and then we upset the #1 seeded Hawks in the semis (I believe). Everyone was just happy to get to the ECF. I don't think anyone exactly expected to beat the Knicks, especially after we fell down in that series 0-2. But the 25 pt 4th quarter put us up 3 games to 2, and it was like: "My god! Maybe we CAN do this". It instantly promoted Reggie from star to beloved hero and national celebrity.
We didn't do it, of course, but we did eventually knocked the Knicks out of the playoffs... twice.
I watched the replay of the 25 pt 4th quarter not too long ago, and thing I had forgotten was how AWFUL the Knicks were offensively during that 4th quarter. It almost looked like they were being paid to lose. Terrible shots, passes, dribbling... everything. I think LaSalle Thompson had 3 or 4 steals in that quarter. I've never seen everything go SO right for one team, and everything go so wrong for the other. The Knicks were shell-shocked. Both the players and their fans.
I'm taking nothing away from the 8pts in 9 seconds, either. That was a great moment too, no doubt. And I don't think the results are especially skewed. I was expecting these results. To this day I hear more people bring that up than the 25 point 4th quarter.