"Freedom is nothing else but a chance to be better." - Albert Camus
"Appreciation is a wonderful thing. It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well." - Voltaire
"Everyone's values are defined by what they will tolerate when it is done to others." - William Greider
I know the Bobcats don't actually get 15,000 actual people to their games.
I went to the game in January and it was without a doubt half full. Yet, they announced like 13,000 people were there.
What I'm saying is, however you want to put it, the Pacers attendance is 26th in the league. Other teams are selling more tickets than we are.
If anyone wants to give me a job back in Indy, I will gladly come purchase season tickets.
I'm pretty sure every team in all sports/leagues announces the attendance as the amount of tickets bought/distributed.
Remember Frank Vogel's first head coaching game against the Raptors during a snowstorm? There were only 100s of people actually there, but they announced it in the 10,000s or something.
Ah, the glory days of 07-08 where we had Dunleavy, Murphy, Travis Diener, Jeff Foster, and a crappy team. We lost a lot of games that year, but boy did we have great attendance because of starting two highly paid white guys in Murphy and Dunleavy. Oh wait, actually our attendance was complete crap that season. In fact, it was a putrid 12,221 per game, which was our lowest attendance of the past 13 years. Looks like trading Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington for two white guys did nothing to help attendance. In fact, it DROPPED after that. That's yet another claim of yours that has no basis in fact whatsoever.
Also, the city of Indianapolis is 25% African American. There are literally hundreds of thousands of African Americans in this community. Believe it or not, Indy isn't 100% made up of racist hayseed hicks.
Last edited by Sollozzo; 02-08-2013 at 07:29 AM.
As the team has improved so has attendance. For example since the new year we have averaged 15,634. I threw out the Detroit game though in that average. IU and Purdue were playing, I am sorry but thats not fair.
And only the Wizards and Hawks had a lower number than our average. Its trending up for sure.
I love Pacers games and I wish I could make it to more of them. I wish everyone else in the city felt the same way so this topic would go away.
No his point was clear: Lose 10 more games but add some white guys and watch the attendance soar. I easily debunked the silly claim with the 07-08 season where we had Murph and Dun for a full year, yet actually lost attendance. In fact, it was the worst season of any of the past 13 years.
We had excellent attendance in the 1990's with a primarily African American team. Reggie, Jalen, Dale, Antonio, McKey, Jackson....all African Americans. Smits and Mullin were the only prominent white players.
We all know the real reason for the bad attendance. The Pacers were a pathetically run franchise for several years. The brawl, off-court incidents, and unlikable players took a massive toll. We got rid of the bad seeds, but followed those seasons up with more losing by teams with boring players and awful Jim O'Brien coaching. All of that takes a toll on a fan base and it's not something that is fixed by the snap of a finger. But it's improving.
Last edited by Sollozzo; 02-07-2013 at 05:19 PM.
To me staying at home is better, I have my remote control in hand, my food, my computer so I can talk s*** on PD I can also go flip channels and watch other games while Quinn is talking , ain't nobody got time to go to a game.
Oh and they also need to have better looking Pacemates, every time I see the Miami, GS and Dallas cheerleaders I feel like I want to be there
Well, they're not real contenders, so what's the point? Besides, college ball is a much better product.
We had 16,000 when the Rockets came to town. I've always liked Sun Yue...