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    Nah, I think it'll be Roy and Hill. Moreso probably Hill though.

    And Danny did a more than decent job on D-Wade in the playoffs last year
    He wasn't guarding wade in the playoffs last year. George was. And wade managed to exploit his quickness advantage in PnRs as the series went on to the point that George became a total non factor after game 3.

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    Some people are threatened by the Lance and Paul George success, some still believe that Danny is better than Paul George when in reality Danny in his best years was not even as good as PG.
    Why would anyone wish that against Paul? I think the vast majority of fans are estatic with Paul's success. The major deal here is hoping he and Danny can co-exist together and they become a 1-2 punch in either order. It doesn't really matter who is better, just as long as they are both winning games for us.

    Don't be such a curmudgeon.

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    He wasn't guarding wade in the playoffs last year. George was.
    There were a few stretches where Paul was guarding Lebron (had a BIG block on Bron during game 3 at BLF) and Danny was guarding Wade.

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    My guess is Danny affords George a little more rest, so that's 14-15 minutes per game he can play while George is resting, leaving only 7-8 minutes where they have to co-exist, which you can coincide with David west's time on the bench.
    Danny is going to get more than 21-23 mins per night, assuming he's healthy.

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    A healthy Danny Granger? Yes he is.....right now

    A decent half of a season doesn't trump 5-6 years of very good production.
    And you keep talking about the pass I rather talk about the present and the future, the present and the future have Paul George and Lance names all over it.

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    There were a few stretches where Paul was guarding Lebron (had a BIG block on Bron during game 3 at BLF) and Danny was guarding Wade.
    I don't think that was by design though. However they did switch off a few times.

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    Some people are threatened by the Lance and Paul George success, some still believe that Danny is better than Paul George when in reality Danny in his best years was not even as good as PG.
    No PG is the "face of the franchise". No doubt about that. Danny lost that title once he got hurt, and Paul got hot.

    But that doesn't mean he can't be Paul's "robin"--a role many (posters and media types alike) have always said Danny was more suited to play.

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    And you keep talking about the pass I rather talk about the present and the future, the present and the future have Paul George and Lance names all over it.
    Not disputing that whatsoever. I'm just not overlooking what Danny brings to the table

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    Danny is going to get more than 21-23 mins per night, assuming he's healthy.
    He's not going to be, not even in a best case scenario. He'll still have conditioning issues even if his knees are 100%, which they won't be, at least not this season.

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    And you keep talking about the pass I rather talk about the present and the future, the present and the future have Paul George and Lance names all over it.
    The past?! Danny has been out only a half a season. Lance just broke through after the Young/Green starting experiment 15 or so games into the season.


    Seriously, you're writing Danny off like he's Gerald Green. You need to stop that.

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    Conditioning issues aren't going to last the rest of the regular season.

    Danny is going to get more than 21-23 minutes.

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    No PG is the "face of the franchise". No doubt about that. Danny lost that title once he got hurt, and Paul got hot.

    But that doesn't mean he can't be Paul's "robin"--a role many (posters and media types alike) have always said Danny was more suited to play.
    Again, they play the same position. Nobody here would be on board with starting granger at shooting guard, which is what it would mean for granger to play "robin."

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    Wow! I didn't realize that getting Granger back from an injury was going to completely ruin the Pacers. I also didn't understand that the best SG we've seen here since Reggie was doomed to be a scrub unless he was moved to SF. Maybe we should just put Danny on disability retirement until Paul is the MVP or signs a contract with the Lakers. Seems to me, PG would have broken out just as big if we had another SF who could have taken Danny's minutes. We lost our best scorer and PG had to take those shots. What position he took them from shouldn't have made much difference.

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    Why would anyone wish that against Paul? I think the vast majority of fans are estatic with Paul's success. The major deal here is hoping he and Danny can co-exist together and they become a 1-2 punch in either order. It doesn't really matter who is better, just as long as they are both winning games for us.

    Don't be such a curmudgeon.
    Maybe you are not wishing it but when you rather put your current all star(that is only 22 years old by the way) in his old position because the old star is coming back it doesn't really tell me that you care that much about him.

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    Lance usually breaks the offense when he does his thing. The offensive play sets won't change subbing Danny in for Lance. He'll stand over on the opposite wing when PG is featured, just like Lance.

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    I wonder if the SF position simply will be split, timewise, with George also logging minutes at SG and Granger some at PF. The most minutes in the playoffs, though, probably will go to the young guns (George, Hill, Stephenson) ... something like:

    C: Hibbert (32)/Mahinmi (12)/West (4)
    PF: West (28)/Hans (12)/Granger (8)
    SF: George (24)/Granger (24)
    SG: Stephenson (32)/George (12)/Hill (4)
    PG: Hill (32)/Augustin (12)/Stephenson (4)
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    Maybe you are not wishing it but when you rather put your current all star(that is only 22 years old by the way) in his old position because the old star is coming back it doesn't really tell me that you care that much about him.
    You're making too much of a big deal about this 2-3 position. If this were college it would matter. Why aren't you raising a stink about a natural shooting guard starting as our 1?

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    The past?! Danny has been out only a half a season. Lance just broke through after the Young/Green starting experiment 15 or so games into the season.


    Seriously, you're writing Danny off like he's Gerald Green. You need to stop that.

    Yesterday is the past, yes the past and I'm sorry but I'm not comparing Danny to Gerald "the best off season signing" Green, I wouldn't do that to him.

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    Why are we so worried about David West when we have a 7' 2" center who can't score at the rim even if he sold his soul to the devil?

    Having Danny and Paul George out together is going to pull the defense away from the lane and Hibbert will get more open looks close to the basket. Just like last season. The defenses are clogging the lane with Lance out top because he just stands from time to time. His effectiveness has been off of transition and the pick and roll.
    Having Danny and Paul together means our offense regresses to last year. Pass to Roy, get out of the way. Pass to David, get out of the way. My turn, your turn. Doesn't work. Lance is the X factor. No fluke during this 4 game win streak Lance is playing his best ball this season
    David "And One" West

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    You're making too much of a big deal about this 2-3 position. If this were college it would matter. Why aren't you raising a stink about a natural shooting guard starting as our 1?
    Because he's actually proving he can play point guard. Also, defensively he's a natural there.

    If you can show me that granger can effectively defend shooting guards, then I have less of an issue. Of course, there's still the matter of David west's chemistry with lance that he really doesn't have with anyone else on the team.
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    As of right now Lance has been our best creator and facilitator on offense (our biggest deficiency). Bring Danny and his scoring punch (volume shooting) of the bench. And keep the future running as smoothly as ever.

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    Having Danny and Paul together means our offense regresses to last year.
    How the hell can you regress to something that was better?! Our offense scored 5 more ppg last year when compared to this year. And this is AFTER our recent string of offensive outbursts.

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    Having Danny and Paul together means our offense regresses to last year. Pass to Roy, get out of the way. Pass to David, get out of the way. My turn, your turn. Doesn't work. Lance is the X factor. No fluke during this 4 game win streak Lance is playing his best ball this season
    After scoring in single digits for 7 games straight with two of those being great big giant donuts. 0. 4 of those games were losses, sir.

    He is still raw. He can do his "next best thing behind Basketball *****" on the bench.

    And you're kidding, right? Roy has had no open looks in the lane all season. Why? There is no spacing being brought by our wings. West can stay in the high post because he makes those shots at a very high percentage. Roy needs an open lane to become as efficient as he did last year. (Which we had a higher scoring percentage...) smh.
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    No PG is the "face of the franchise". No doubt about that. Danny lost that title once he got hurt, and Paul got hot.

    But that doesn't mean he can't be Paul's "robin"--a role many (posters and media types alike) have always said Danny was more suited to play.



    Not disputing that whatsoever. I'm just not overlooking what Danny brings to the table


    The highlighted part tells me a lot, you believe that "he got hot", by reading your previous posts it looks to me like you don't believe what you are seeing or you don't want to believe it because you still want your guy Danny to be "numero uno", is OK if you and others feel that way.

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    I personally believe that Lance would be a bigger benefit to the bench than Danny. Lance won't provide as much of a scoring output as Danny, but Lance will make everyone on the bench instantly better with his creativity offensively. I think Danny will in turn help Roy by providing another known threat to the starting offense, spreading the floor and daring teams to double team Roy/David. Preferably I would like to see Lance take on a role similar to Harden's at OKC, coming off the bench, but playing alot of minutes with the ones. Thereby pushing Danny to play some time at the floor and really giving this team versatility to match up and play with any team in the league. WE are really going to be scary with Danny back. So many options.

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    The highlighted part tells me a lot, you believe that "he got hot", by reading your previous posts it looks to me like you don't believe what you are seeing or you don't want to believe it because you still want your guy Danny to be "numero uno", is OK if you and others feel that way.
    Nobody here is calling Danny number one! We are talking about co-existence.

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