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    Minimizes impact to his knees and maintains the chemistry of the starting unit that is pretty much freaking amazing at this particular time.

    The thought of Granger being our gun off the bench practically gives me a stiffy. What a b!tchslap that is for playoff opponents.

    Frankly I think it is in Granger's best interest to embrace the 6th man role, if only for the remainder of this season. He risks damage to his reputation if he derails the train by coming back into a starter role. And, then, possibly demotion if its ugly. So why not preserve your rep and take the 6th man role, kill it and build up your trade value?

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    Granger will start. No way around that.

    How would he "derail the train" by coming back and starting? That's his spot.

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    Granger will start. No way around that.

    How would he "derail the train" by coming back and starting? That's his spot.
    DC was starting before he got injured, and was replaced by George Hill. That was supposed to be HIS spot. Where's DC again? Who did we sign for nearly-obscene amounts of money this past offseason?

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    DC was starting before he got injured, and was replaced by George Hill. That was supposed to be HIS spot. Where's DC again? Who did we sign for nearly-obscene amounts of money this past offseason?

    I would think Hill actually being better than DC is the reason. Lance isn't better than Danny.

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    I think he should return off the bench for a bit and see how it goes, for two reasons: 1) to make sure the chemistry is returned to normalcy, and 2) to allow him to ease back from his time off and get back into game shape. It should be a natural transition not a forced transition.
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    I expect him to start, and play restricted minutes. I expect during playoffs that Danny, Lance and Paul will all play 30+ minutes. More going to the one who is playing better that night.

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    Granger will start. No way around that.

    How would he "derail the train" by coming back and starting? That's his spot.
    His spot was the starting SF. It isn't his spot anymore. And yes, it absolutely matters, especially if Danny has lost a step defensively.

    Using him as a 6th man is probably in the best interest of the team, but I doubt granger would be happy with it.

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    His spot was the starting SF. It isn't his spot anymore. And yes, it absolutely matters, especially if Danny has lost a step defensively.

    Using him as a 6th man is probably in the best interest of the team, but I doubt granger would be happy with it.
    I'm just going to highlight this so some people in this forum get it.

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    His spot was the starting SF. It isn't his spot anymore. And yes, it absolutely matters, especially if Danny has lost a step defensively.

    Using him as a 6th man is probably in the best interest of the team, but I doubt granger would be happy with it.
    I agree completely we are so much better when Lance is on the floor then when he isn't. The offense rating is a pretty dramatic splits. The defense is about the same also.

    I really want Granger off the bench I love our starting 5 as a unit they need to play together as much as possible. Lance may be the 3rd 4th or 5th option in the unit but he is the glue that makes it work IMO. Like David West has said when Lance plays well the Pacers play well.


    I also read an article on Cornrows that makes it sound like that in the near future Lance will be moving to the primary ball handler.

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    Didn't play a whole lot in his first two years but then this year, in part because of Danny, but he was going to play anyway because we just needed to commit to that. He's gotten time and basically, fit his talent into an NBA game. He's been playing at the two guard position so he's been learning how to come off of screens and he's learning how to play without the ball which will help him for the day when he gets back to playing with the ball.

    He's done very well and actually in the last couple of games (DEN DET) he's done extremely well. In transition, he's like a mini-LeBron in a sense that he really gets the ball down the court quickly and comes at you with a big body, so we get a lot of good out of that. He sees the floor and he's a willing passer so I think he'll continue to get better at that. His shooting has been good as far as, he'll hit the three he can take it to the goal. There are games he goes in and helps us on the boards and defensively he's learning every day but he has a defensive mindset and I think also has the skill set to be an awfully good defender some day. But he's only 22 years old.
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    Two great articles how how good we play with Lance. Granger will be a serious help to what we need I just want our starting 5 to still play 25mpg together when he comes back.
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    Maybe, doubt coach knows at this point.
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    Using him as a 6th man is probably in the best interest of the team, but I doubt granger would be happy with it.
    Granger has shown that he is willing to step back if it's for the best interest of the team.

    However, I prefer Lance Stephenson as the 6th man. He runs a lot more (and our 2nd unit can run unlike the first) and he can both score and distribute.
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    3 games of scoring 100+ points and its time to bench Danny....

    I think Danny fits in much better with the starters than Lance imo. Lance is best with the ball in his hands, creating for himself and others. Danny is much better without the ball and a better shooter. I think Lance is exactly what the bench needs honestly. I just hope Ian can catch his passes.

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    3 games of scoring 100+ points and its time to bench Danny....

    I think Danny fits in much better with the starters than Lance imo. Lance is best with the ball in his hands, creating for himself and others. Danny is much better without the ball and a better shooter. I think Lance is exactly what the bench needs honestly. I just hope Ian can catch his passes.
    I disagree.

    Our starting 5 has some of the best chemistry in the NBA. I'd HATE to break that up, even for Granger.

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    I disagree.

    Our starting 5 has some of the best chemistry in the NBA. I'd HATE to break that up, even for Granger.
    Our starting 5 had some of the best chemistry last year, including Danny.

    As good as our chemistry has been, we still suck offensively.

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    Our starting 5 had some of the best chemistry last year, including Danny.

    As good as our chemistry has been, we still suck offensively.
    That was last year, lets talk about the present and future and yes we suck offensively in big part because the Pacers failed to rebuild the bench.

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    I see Danny playing like 2 weeks from the bench progressively getting more minutes, starting with 5 or so and/or garbage minutes up to the usual 30.


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    I would like to test out using Danny as our sixth man type of player, but I doubt Vogel will try it. I don't know how Danny would take it either.

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    3 games of scoring 100+ points and its time to bench Danny....

    I think Danny fits in much better with the starters than Lance imo. Lance is best with the ball in his hands, creating for himself and others. Danny is much better without the ball and a better shooter. I think Lance is exactly what the bench needs honestly. I just hope Ian can catch his passes.
    Offensively, I agree. Defensively? Totally different story. Stephenson has been very successful on that end as the starting 2-guard, and the Pacers are a defensive team.
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    Hasn't Vogel already said that Danny would start or am I making that up?
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    Hasn't Vogel already said that Danny would start or am I making that up?
    He said something along the lines that he will come off the bench at first, and the plan is to eventually have him start once he is in game shape. Of course plans can always change if it turns out bringing him in off the bench works extremely well. At the beginning the of year the plan was to have Green start for Granger, and look how that turned out. In sports plans can never be set in stone, they can only be general guidelines.

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    Vogel said Granger will come off the bench at first, then he'll move to the starters.

    It's the right decision.

    Granger helps the team offensively and defensively. And Lance will help the bench on both ends.

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    Vogel said Granger will come off the bench at first, then he'll move to the starters.

    It's the right decision.

    Granger helps the team offensively and defensively. And Lance will help the bench on both ends.
    I'm not saying I don't believe you (because I do), but do you remember where you got that? I can't find anything.
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    Vogel said Granger will come off the bench at first, then he'll move to the starters.

    It's the right decision.

    Granger helps the team offensively and defensively. And Lance will help the bench on both ends.
    So would Granger off the bench. It is just a matter of what works better. We can't say at this point, but it would be stupid to completely rule out the possibility of using Granger in the 6th man role.

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    Vogel said Granger will come off the bench at first, then he'll move to the starters.

    It's the right decision.

    Granger helps the team offensively and defensively. And Lance will help the bench on both ends.
    I guess I just trust Danny to be the main scoring option for a unit more than I do Lance... Known vs. Unknown I guess...
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    This is the closest thing I found:

    Granger (knee) is likely to come off the bench, playing reduced
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    Granger (knee) is likely to come off the bench, playing reduced minutes, when he eventually returns to active duty for Indiana, the Indianapolis Star reports. 'I don't imagine he's going to be able to play 38 minutes right away,' Indiana head coach Frank Vogel said. 'If there's a time frame where he's limited minutes-wise, we'll consider bringing him off the bench short term, but if we do so it'll only be short term.' [...]

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