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Well, they've had two #1 overall picks - Bellamy and Benson.
McGinnis would've been a third, but with the goofy underclassman rules and funny "regional" drafts that the ABA would concoct, he wasn't part of a regular draft process.
Scott May, Archie Dees and Isiah were each #2 overall picks.
Cheaney was a #6 pick, Buckner #7 overall. Bobby Wilkerson was #11 on the coattails of going 63-1 over two seasons.
Eric Gordon was #7, right?
Tom and Dick were both second-round picks. (FN*)
Bob Leonard was a second-round pick as well, #10 overall.
Jeffries was #11 (that wasn't a good idea, was it?)
I think that's the universe of top-12 picks.
Except that Landon Turner certainly would've been top-12. Have any other paralyzed players ever been drafted by an NBA team? Or is Landon the only one?
* Footnote. With only eight teams in the league, Dick was the #10 overall pick and Tom was the #11 pick overall. Also, in the fourth round (pick #24) -- or as we call it today, "late first round" -- from the same IU team was Jon McGlocklin. That was the same draft as future HoF'ers: Goodrich, Bradley, Barry, Sloan and Cunningham. Wowzers!!
Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you
full list of NBA players from IU: http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...ana+University
Hall-of-Famers: Bellamy, Thomas
MVP: McGinnis (both ABA and NBA)
perennial all-star players: Dick and Tom Van Arsdale, Eric Gordon
long-time very solid NBA players: Woodson, Buckner, May, Benson, Henderson, Cheaney, Wittman
players some have falsely alleged to be NBA busts here:
Alan Henderson- picked 16th, probably had the 7th or 8th best career of anyone in that draft, played 12 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_NBA_Draft
Calbert Cheaney- picked 6th, probably about the 8th best career in that draft, valued nearly right, played 13 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_NBA_Draft
I can accept Benson and May being considered busts due to their draft position, despite their long careers, but others like Bailey, Haston, Alford, etc. were drafted low or in weak drafts anyway where there weren't many better alternatives when they were actually drafted. There might have been local hype to draft them, but on a national level they were in general not so well-regarded and played neither much worse nor much better than their draft selection slot would have indicated.
As for Victor, he would be a great "get" in the low lottery for his athleticism and work ethic, and a vastly improved shot. His mechanics are good so I see no reason for him to lose an ability to shoot in the NBA. If anything, better competition brings out his best performances.
The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).
I'm (maybe) back after being repetedly banned, merely for supporting a different NFL team than do certain forum moderators.
I'm not disagreeing about Chumlee, but would you care to elaborate as to who who think was a better BPA at the #26 pick? The only 4 1sts drafted after Chumlee were
I don't know if anybody was getting defensive but as a Hoosier fan it was highly entertaining to me. Fun facts are fun.
"There is a time to play and a time to win. It is what you do during winning time that differentiates the average players from stars."
Victor is a bit small for my liking at the 2 spot, but he does play good D and he is pretty darn good on the offense. I like his style of play. I want to see more before making a decision on anything of him being a Pacers. I do know this, I had no interest in him last season.
Frank Vogel says "Killer instinct, start strong, build a lead and then step on their throats."