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    He does come off the bench, so he plays with scrubs. He was a much better shooter when the Bobcats were a playoff team.
    I have a simple rule- good players perform, bad players don't.

    There's only so many excuses you can make for the guy.
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    Okay, so I get it... You guys don't like the trade.

    How about this? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a8hj6ey

    Let's assume we'd be able to re-sign Tyreke.
    Tyreke is restricted so we would be able to re-sign him, but why do you want to get rid of Granger for players that are not as good as he is?
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    I have a simple rule- good players perform, bad players don't.

    There's only so many excuses you can make for the guy.
    Since he has been benched, he has been shooting as well as he did in his first 2 years in the league. As long as he keeps that up and doesn't turn over the ball I don't think he needs any excuses.

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    Okay, so I get it... You guys don't like the trade.

    How about this? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a8hj6ey

    Let's assume we'd be able to re-sign Tyreke.

    Edit - In this scenario, Hill can continue to start at point, and 'Reke and Thornton can split time at the 2.
    I like that one a helluva lot better. That might be a good trade I think. Hard to judge. Where's p4e?

    (I still wouldn't do it, I think the Pacers are contenders with Granger. After the playoffs is when Granger becomes a major trade asset)
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    Tyreke is restricted so we would be able to re-sign him, but why you want to get rid of Granger for players that are not as good as he is?
    I don't like to get into ranking players, but I think Granger and Tyreke are at least in the same tier. Anyway, to answer your question, it's just a hypothetical. This is a thread about Houston's interest in Granger, so I'm exploring moves that would send him there.

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    I don't like to get into ranking players, but I think Granger and Tyreke are at least in the same tier. Anyway, to answer your question, it's just a hypothetical. This is a thread about Houston's interest in Granger, so I'm exploring moves that would send him there.
    I don't think it's even close. Maybe he would look better on a different team. I don't like his fit here though since he's not a good shooter.

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    Okay, so I get it... You guys don't like the trade.

    How about this? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a8hj6ey

    Let's assume we'd be able to re-sign Tyreke.

    Edit - In this scenario, Hill can continue to start at point, and 'Reke and Thornton can split time at the 2.
    If Tyreke could shoot I'd be inclined to do this.

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    Haha! Read this! Whenever the Pacers front office is having a bad day or need a pick me up they come on Pacers digest and read about the trades fans would make. It gives them a big laugh!

    http://thetradesdumbfanswouldmake.com/

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    Haha! Read this! Whenever the Pacers front office is having a bad day or need a pick me up they come on Pacers digest and read about the trades fans would make. It gives them a big laugh!

    http://thetradesdumbfanswouldmake.com/
    It keeps redirecting me to Pacersdigest...Are you sure you typed in the correct address???
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    Here's a trade that I would consider doing:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    Indiana in: Klay Thompson, Terrence Jones, Donatas Motiejunas

    Indiana out: Danny Granger

    Orlando in: Andris Biedrins, Carl Landry, Patrick Patterson

    Orlando out: JJ Redick, Al Harrington

    Golden State in: Omer Asik, JJ Redick

    Golden State out: Klay Thompson, Andris Biedrins, Carl Landry

    Houston in: Danny Granger, Al Harrington

    Houston out: Omer Asik, Patrick Patterson, Terrence Jones, Donatas Motiejunas

    Why for Indiana: They get an excellent shooter that fits their needs and could be a good starter with Paul George. They also get 2 PFs with good potential. They save money and the combination of Jones + Motiejunas make Tyler kinda expendable in case he asks for a lot of money.

    Why for Orlando: They get Carl Landry and a serviceable back up (Patterson) out of Redick's expiring. They also dump Harrington's contract and can start their full rebuild one year earlier (Biedrins has one year less on his contract).

    Why for Golden State: They get out of Biedrins' contract while acquiring a solid back up for Bogut in case of injury. They also get a good combo guard that can shoot or play the PnR and fits their offense. They become deeper, bigger and improve their playoff chances.

    Why for Houston: They get shooters that fit McHale's offense. They make a serious run for the playoffs as well.

    I think that most teams have a reason to say no but most of them also have incentives to do this trade. Dunno what you think but I find it interesting.
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    Here's a trade that I would consider doing:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    Indiana in: Klay Thompson, Terrence Jones, Donatas Motiejunas

    Indiana out: Danny Granger

    Orlando in: Andris Biedrins, Carl Landry, Patrick Patterson

    Orlando out: JJ Redick, Glen Davis

    Golden State in: Omer Asik, JJ Redick

    Golden State out: Klay Thompson, Andris Biedrins, Carl Landry

    Houston in: Danny Granger, Al Harrington

    Houston out: Omer Asik, Patrick Patterson, Terrence Jones, Donatas Motiejunas

    Why for Indiana: They get an excellent shooter that fits their needs and could be a good starter with Paul George. They also get 2 PFs with good potential. They save money and the combination of Jones + Motiejunas make Tyler kinda expendable in case he asks for a lot of money.

    Why for Orlando: They get Carl Landry and a serviceable back up (Patterson) out of Redick's expiring. They also dump Harrington's contract and can start their full rebuild one year earlier (Biedrins has one year less on his contract).

    Why for Golden State: They get out of Biedrins' contract while acquiring a solid back up for Bogut in case of injury. They also get a good combo guard that can shoot or play the PnR and fits their offense. They become deeper, bigger and improve their playoff chances.

    Why for Houston: They get shooters that fit McHale's offense. They make a serious run for the playoffs as well.

    I think that most teams have a reason to say no but most of them also have incentives to do this trade. Dunno what you think but I find it interesting.
    That trade is beyond bad for GS. If they wanted out of Beans they could of amnestied him. He isnt that bad of a contract anymore because he is soon to expire. Klay Thomson is untouchable IMO. Dude is deadly he and Curry are a unreal duo.


    also why would they want Asik they have a guy named Bogut who is pretty damn good. If I was Bob Myers I let that team grow together I wouldn't be looking to make a trade just let the team learn each other. Bogut and Lee are going to be a deadly duo.

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    That trade is beyond bad for GS. If they wanted out of Beans they could of amnestied him. He isnt that bad of a contract anymore because he is soon to expire. Klay Thomson is untouchable IMO. Dude is deadly he and Curry are a unreal duo.


    also why would they want Asik they have a guy named Bogut who is pretty damn good. If I was Bob Myers I let that team grow together I wouldn't be looking to make a trade just let the team learn each other. Bogut and Lee are going to be a deadly duo.
    I don't think it is beyond bad, I do think Klay is off limits, and if all you are getting back is Asik and Reddick then that is horrible, but with Bogut and the injury issue I can see where GS would like a strong back up, but I don't like his contract and again with losing Klay for that, kind of silly, would need picks from multiple teams.

    Isn't Davis hurt right now by the way?
    Why so SERIOUS

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    That trade is beyond bad for GS. If they wanted out of Beans they could of amnestied him. He isnt that bad of a contract anymore because he is soon to expire. Klay Thomson is untouchable IMO. Dude is deadly he and Curry are a unreal duo.


    also why would they want Asik they have a guy named Bogut who is pretty damn good. If I was Bob Myers I let that team grow together I wouldn't be looking to make a trade just let the team learn each other. Bogut and Lee are going to be a deadly duo.
    I agree that Klay Thompson should be untouchable for GS. However, there is a reason for Asik and Redick. Both Bogut and Curry are very injury prone. Asik and Redick would ensure that you are not going to have a major drop off even in the case of injury.

    I wasn't sure that they would amnesty Beans, though. Thanks for the info
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    Isn't Davis hurt right now by the way?
    I changed Glen Davis to Al Harrington but I forgot to note it in the Orlando part. I'll fix it
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