Bird missed badly on drafting Hans instead of Holiday, yes? Bird's biggest complaint about the team was that they were soft. You see anything soft about Tyler? At the time, IMO, Hans was drafted to bring some toughness alongside Foster. The fact that he was hurt when he came in and had the vertigo problem changed the plan. JOB not playing him may have been the reason Bird finally pulled the trigger on his contract. When Vogel talked about "smash mouth basketball" who was the player that first came to mind? Murphy? When Jeff got hurt and couldn't play, Murphy turned into Collison, Vogel started Tyler and PG and changed the way the Pacers had looked for years. IIRC, Granger, Hans and McBob on the floor together made "small ball" fun again and not just an excuse to shoot more 3s. JMOAA, and of course, David West just added to the toughness and talent content of this team in a major way!