...nope doesn't cut
..there that's better
If games are won and lost on a calculator and piece of paper, then why do we bother to play them?
other than the portland game where Aldrigdge went off.. the effort was there. the jazz game we fought hard and this game vs Denver we fought hard. its not enough i will agree. but the team is young. still no excuse.
but i do believe the bigger picture is the playoffs and we need Granger to make any noise. the home games in Feb will help to catch ground. if Granger can stay healthy... big if then we got a fighters chance to get to the ECF.
* lets not take that for granted considering we have been close to losing the Pacers. along with this being a small team we are competing with Miami, NY, Brooklyn, and Chicago.
Last edited by PacersPride; 01-29-2013 at 01:05 AM.
1. The game was a good game between two good teams.
2. Pacers should have gotten a better break from the refs.
3. In the NBA it's hard to beat a good team at home.
4. No reason to be real upset over the loses on the road.
Its not crazy, I've said it in the other threads that just trash Green. He is actually a decent defender and alters alot of shots with his athleticism. He causes havoc when rotating from the weak side to challenge shots.
Pacers are on an obvious downward trend since Green has seen his minutes reduced and then benched. Shot selection can be controlled with coaching. Vogel gave up too soon.
You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
are you serious man. Greene has sucked for most the season. he needs to find his shot. if we are dependent upon Gerald Greene off the bench to win us games then im mailing in the season.
Greene needs to find his jumpshot before he sees any more meaningfull playing time.
Isn't that what most of you want? Don't call fouls in the last minute and "let them play."
With 0.5 left I felt really good about our chances of OT. Don't put the refs in a position where they can make a foul call. He wasn't going to score at the rim there (IMO, of course) but DON'T make contact and give them a chance to make the call.
EDIT - and certainly DON'T make contact after you just wasted a possession in the last thirty seconds of a tie game with lousy ball handing in order to attempt a three-point shot. (Did he know the score was tied... at either end of the court?)
Not impressed with Paul George's game-awareness tonight.
Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you
Ok. I settled down a little bit. First, we can not keep getting down late in ball games on the road and just storming back. That is a losing cause 95% of the time, and we have seen it twice on this road trip. I don't know what is up with our defense, but it certainly is frustrating. (Gerald Green?) Also, George Hill seems to miss the most clutch FT's. He missed the one against Memphis(luckily we win that game), and he misses a huge one here. If that FT goes in, we regain the lead. Also, that Paul George 3 was about 3 millimeters away from going in. Onto our last possession of the game, that was so bad. I thought Hibbert was going to turn the Ball over to start us off. Then PG literally holds it until there is 1 second on the shot clock. It was almost like he didn't know the shot clock was still on. He got fouled, but that doesn't explain why Vogel had drawn up such a horrible play. On the other end, I have to say that you don't make that call at the end of the game. Iggy pulled Paul and it was really just incidental contact.
Losing sucks, but at the end of the season, this game probably won't end up mattering.
There is no way I can rationally try to word how FURIOUS I am at the way this game (and the Utah game) ended at the hands of the refs.
So I will just say two things:
First of all: Everyone saying that the calls to end this game and the calls to end the Utah game were correct... You are WRONG. Sorry, that's a fact.
Secondly: As a lifelong Green Bay Packer fan (born and raised in WI), you can all probably imagine my level of frustration and heartache over dumbass botched ref calls in recent months.
I've NEVER, once in my entire life been as upset at a sporting event call as I was during the GB/Sea game. It took me weeks to get over that, and it STILL boils my blood to think about it.
As bad as that was... I can honestly say that the treatment the Pacers have received the last two games is in that same category.
Completely and utterly ROBBED.
We deserve better than this, you piece of **** NBA refs.
Personally, I think no call should have been made. Not with incidental contact at 0:00.5. But, I can't really complain with the way it was called. The only thing that would have been totally wrong would have been a foul called against Igoudala.
I would say that there were instances during the last 3-4 minutes of the game where substantially more contact was made on a ball handler without a call being made.
Consistency of foul calls for contact was a problem in this game... both ways.
For ppl calling us homers:
Nuggets fans don't even think it was a foul.
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Guys we should stop talking about the referees and start talking about the team, wtf is wrong with this team? 3 straight losses, it looks like they forgot how to play D, Roy is still puke Roy, the offense is still crappy must of the time, George Hill is playing like crap too.