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    Default Re: Pacers/Nuggets Postgame Thread 1/28/13

    Decent record or not this team has issues right now. Horrible shot selection and decision making at times not to mention everybody has gotten lazy with their passing. We are not good enough to just show up and expect to beat teams. Tough schedule coming up(even though at home). If they don't start showing up to play and quit making stupid mental errors we could be on the fast track back to .500 ball. Refs were bad but I refuse to blame the refs for the last couple of games. Don't like what I'm seeing on the court more than anything.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Nuggets Postgame Thread 1/28/13

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    Controversies aside, Pacers aren't deserving these road wins. Lack of execution on offense, no inside game.

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    Tough way to lose, but once again, whatever on the controversial ending. Played like trash for 24 straight minutes and let Denver run wild.


    I agree with this points.

    The flip side of that is that our opposition didn't really play any better. I can't talk for the Utah game, but I felt this game was fairly officiated until the final two possessions.

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    Listen I agree last game the Pacers blew it.

    This game the Pacers tied the game. Denver was given the win. You can't argue some arbitrary call KEPT the Pacers from winning. We don't know who should have won. It was tied. And the refs randomely gave two points with .5 seconds on the clock to the Nuggets. That was ridiculous.

    This isn't a case of the Pacers "not executing" No they played well enough against a damn good team on their home court and force it into overtime. Only the refs had different plans.
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    Default Re: Pacers/Nuggets Postgame Thread 1/28/13

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    You know me I don't ***** about calls. The call at the end of the Jazz game was correct in every way. But the two calls at the end of the Nugs game really bad. No way Paul fouled him there and Paul was mugged a few plays earlier. RReally bad,
    Back to back possessions actually. 2 heavily Denver favored officiating judgments in a row.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Nuggets Postgame Thread 1/28/13

    I believe the Pacers won a game few years ago with a similar call on Lebron James.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Nuggets Postgame Thread 1/28/13

    We honestly shouldn't have been in that situation.

    **Hill missed a FT..what happened to this guy?
    **Paul's open 3 rimmed out
    **Paul gets ripped/fouled by Iggy...DEN ball.

    We were gift wrapped 4FT misses by Iggy, we've gotta capitalize nd not leave it in the hands of the refs. Honestly it was a foul, but there was no more contact there than on the previous play that was a no call. Home team gets home cooking I guess.

    I hope we snap out of this funk soon. We haven't looked good since the win in CHA IMO (got hot from 3 against HOU) bc these last few losses have stung and we're losing ground in the EC every day. We'll be looking at the 6 or 7 seed if we don't get our ish together.

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    I believe the Pacers won a game few years ago with a similar call on Lebron James.
    You know the difference? The play before, LeBron had gone to the foul line with the same call on Granger.

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    I believe the Pacers won a game few years ago with a similar call on Lebron James.
    Only after they called in on Danny Granger. It was a make-up call then. Also, it wouldn't make it right.

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    What ref made that call? He just made the list.
    Be honest, Shade. Every ref is on the list. You just haven't memorized all their names yet.

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    While I agree, it doesn't excuse officiating like that.
    Exactly. It's so stupid to hear those kind of excuses. Whatever happened before it doesn't change the fact it was a terrible call and it ignores the fact that the Pacers got back into it. Hate the 'forgive the refs because they don't DESERVE IT'. A bad call is a bad call... and if the score is tied/close THEY DESERVE IT.

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    Which bad officiating? The missed foul call against George at the 0:27 mark? (With the body, on the Galanari block)

    The mishandling of the clock when George coughed up the ball? Could've been a charge, too. Denver had between 0.5 and 0.7 seconds taken away because the refs "didn't acknowledge the time-out."

    The bad coaching that took the ball out of Hill's hands on the last offensive possession? That's just not a situation where you want Paul Handles George dribbling the ball period. That situation calls for a Hill-West pick and roll.

    The bad decision to start the last play so late in the shot clock that the only thing he could have been going for -- in a tie game -- was a three-pointer.

    The ref's are barely in the top-ten reasons we lost this game.

    Quit looking outside the losing team for someone to be irked it. The refs don't deserve that anger tonight. The Pacers do.
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    I believe the Pacers won a game few years ago with a similar call on Lebron James.

    Yes but that was a foul, plus the play right before Lebron was fouled on the same type play

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    Know what? We'll just show them next game we can go out there and beat them 5v8. BRING IT LETS GO PACERS
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    on the bright side... the pacers need to get familiar with bad calls and overcome it .. because the Pacers will not get any favorable calls in the playoffs when it really matters.

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    You know the difference? The play before, LeBron had gone to the foul line with the same call on Granger.
    Yep. I was at that game and man did it feel good to have that karma balanced at the end. This game ended with 2 pro-nuggets calls. BALONEY.

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    The refs were pretty good up until the last minute of the game. I don't understand how you can have 2 refs stand there and not call that foul. And then to go down on the other end and call that terrible call is just a slap in the face. It makes me sick.

    Still great game by Paul, Lance, and David West. Hibbert's defense was outstanding but he's starting to morph into Dennis Rodman on offense. He had more finesse and touch back in his rookie season than he does right now. I think he should be limited to no more than 8 shots per game moving forward and he shouldn't receive any post-up attempts late in the 4 th quarter when the game is in balance.

    Still it was nice to see Lance use his physical gifts to get to the rim in transition and in the half court. That's what I'm going to have to focus on.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Nuggets Postgame Thread 1/28/13

    Is there anybody that still thinks Hibbert is a max player?

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    Which bad officiating? The missed foul call against George at the 0:27 mark? (With the body, on the Galanari block)

    The mishandling of the clock when George coughed up the ball? Could've been a charge, too. Denver had between 0.5 and 0.7 seconds taken away because the refs "didn't acknowledge the time-out."

    The bad coaching that took the ball out of Hill's hands on the last offensive possession? That's just not a situation where you want Paul Handles George dribbling the ball period. That situation calls for a Hill-West pick and roll.

    The bad decision to start the last play so late in the shot clock that the only thing he could have been going for -- in a tie game -- was a three-pointer.

    The ref's are barely in the top-ten reasons we lost this game.

    Quit looking outside the losing team for someone to be irked it. The refs don't deserve that anger tonight. The Pacers do.
    What?

    Gallinari was if anything an offensive foul. He pushed off and still got blocked.

    Mishandling of the clock has nothing to do with officiating.

    Bad coaching has nothing to do with officiating.

    Horrible calls are horrible calls. Trying to justify it with anything else that happened in the game is silly.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Nuggets Postgame Thread 1/28/13

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    Yes but that was a foul, plus the play right before Lebron was fouled on the same type play
    And that was a foul on Paul George.
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    You know me I don't ***** about calls. The call at the end of the Jazz game was correct in every way. But the two calls at the end of the Nugs game really bad. No way Paul fouled him there and Paul was mugged a few plays earlier. RReally bad,
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    Which bad officiating? The missed foul call against George at the 0:27 mark? (With the body, on the Galanari block)

    The mishandling of the clock when George coughed up the ball? Could've been a charge, too. Denver had between 0.5 and 0.7 seconds taken away because the refs "didn't acknowledge the time-out."

    The bad coaching that took the ball out of Hill's hands on the last offensive possession? That's just not a situation where you want Paul Handles George dribbling the ball period. That situation calls for a Hill-West pick and roll.

    The bad decision to start the last play so late in the shot clock that the only thing he could have been going for -- in a tie game -- was a three-pointer.

    The ref's are barely in the top-ten reasons we lost this game.

    Quit looking outside the losing team for someone to be irked it. The refs don't deserve that anger tonight. The Pacers do.
    What are you even talking about?

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    And that was a foul on Iguadola.
    But they clearly didn't call it....

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    Is there anybody that still thinks Hibbert is a max player?
    I don't think anyone thought he deserved the max....
    whether people felt we had to match the contract instead of losing him is another story

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    i thought Lance played lights out.. and really sparked us in the 4th. imo he has to be a most improved player of the year honorable mention. dude may end up being the point gaurd of the future. he has all the skills and is as young as PG24.

    Legend may have left us a diamond in the ruff with Stephenson. kid is uber-talented.

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    Denver pretty much asked us to steal this game. Iggy missed FOUR straight free throws. Gallo scored 25+ and they didn't keep going to him with West on him. Our offensive lack of execution did us in.

    PG was fouled out on the wing by Iggy. But what the hell was he doing? You're better off taking a timeout with four seconds on the shot clock than starting your move from 28 feet out. This team just completely breaks down when they can't get into the paint via West. Lance and Hill overdribble and PG settles.

    And I'll say it 'cause I'm that crazy. Not playing Green is hurting our defense.

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