IMO, the proposed Danny+Tyler+Green for Redick+Big Baby+Mcbob actually is a win-win.
The Magic receive a cornerstone piece who is a former All Star, another guy who sets an example with his hustle and determination in Hansbrough, and a streaky 3 point threat in Green, while the Pacers clear cap space and add flexibility for future moves and retention of 2 of our top 3 players, gain an instant offensive interior presence for the second unit in Davis, get a rental of Reddick who might push Lance for minutes, and add a multifaceted 2nd unit presence in McRoberts who is a passing big who can play serviceable team defense and can ignite the crowd and hopefully fuel the overall energy of the team at times with his McDunks.
The most important parts of this to me for the Pacers is the cap space / flexibility, and the presence of Davis for the second unit. Both are important to the continued stability and growth of the franchise over the next several years.
I'll remind you. Shut down their penetration. Do not let them to get open 3s or open lay-ups. Leave the mid range shots if need be. Hibbert, do not step away from the basket and do not follow Davis on the perimeter.
In other words, we let Davis to try to beat us all by himself. And he couldn't it as it's logical. It was our defensive plan.
The magic don't need any of that stuff, and if the Pacers want financial flexibility they can let Danny expire instead of trading him for Redick who is going to expire
In order to trade Danny, he is going to have to be healthy and firing on all cylinders. If this is the case, why in the heck would anyone want an expiring JJ for Danny.
Anyways, if Danny was involved, it would take a 3rd team to get what Orlando wants cause they wouldn't want a huge contract.
Frank Vogel says "Killer instinct, start strong, build a lead and then step on their throats."
However, shame on you if you haven't changed your number by then.
You guys realize that Davis is less efficient than Tyler, right?
I actually think it's a lose lose. I want JJ but we don't have the assets to get him and trading Granger for him would be a mistake IMO. But it doesn't matter about my opinion it matters about the Magic and they clearly don't want him.
There are some differences, though:
1) Foster's contract didn't inhibit our ability to go after the players we wanted or resign our starters. There's a reason that his contract ended in the off-season in which we planned to make our moves.
2) Foster deserved the retirement money.
Simply put, we could afford such a contract last season. Especially to a player that offered so much to our ball club. We had cap space so his contract never hurt us. It just hurt Simon's pocket. Not the team. But we can no longer afford such a contract.
Exactly. It's not a win-win. It's a lose-lose. The Magic do not want Granger. They are rebuilding.
We want Granger. We are planning to contend and he may be the one who puts our offense over the top.
Plumlee isn't going anywhere
Certainly not in a trade for an undersized SG. Redick can't defend, rebound and Miles is much better looking.
I think tonight showed that we really need a dependable consistent outside threat. We have guys taking threes that probably shouldn't be. I would love to have Redick as I've always wanted a Kyle Korver type of guy.
I would at least consider something involving Lance and/or Tyler, maybe, maybe Plumlee. Throw in a couple of those young, low - cost guys in to sweeten Green's inclusion.
I'd have no issue sending those guys out for Reddick. I like what he'd bring to the table. Smart, tough, offensive upgrade, not as abysmal defense as some would lead you to believe.
However, the big obstacle would be our ability to retain him beyond this season. If you can make those financials work, I'm interested. Not optimistic though.
I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.
Or just wait a couple weeks to add a 15-18 ppg scorer who can hit 3's and cost us no players in a trade Danny Granger
Unfortunately, my guess is that there is at least a chance that Granger may primarily be a "stretch 4" who is a defensive liability at this point, and the Pacers cannot afford to pay a "stretch 4" who is a defensive liability what Granger is being paid. Indiana is not a large market, and unless he can return to being a much quicker and more explosive player with better lateral movement, the Pacers cannot afford to carry his contract, especially when he is not being relied on this season.
Also, in my opinion, Davis could be better than Tyler given an opportunity to play with a better team with better coaching.
I also believe that McRoberts could thrive in the Pacers' system in our second unit due to his passing and team defensive skills.