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    Just need one of the next two...




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    Drop down to the 5th seed. Nothing to panic about. Team just needs to respond and get one of the next two and then do what they should be expected to do in Feb. If they don't do that, then you can panic.

    Danny's scoring would help a lot on the road. We would have at least been in striking distance in the 4th I think.

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    Our PGs got hosed by Lillard tonight

    Ironic that I'm saying that regarding a rookie player
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    Our PGs got hosed by Lillard tonight

    Ironic that I'm saying that regarding a rookie player
    I feel like that's happening more and more often. If he's not getting a lot of pass deflections, Hill has kind of turned into a lazy defensive player this year. He is routinely getting beaten on the defensive end, which is far different than his game last year.

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    I feel like that's happening more and more often. If he's not getting a lot of pass deflections, Hill has kind of turned into a lazy defensive player this year. He is routinely getting beaten on the defensive end, which is far different than his game last year.
    What I've noticed about Hill (and I noticed it last season as well) is that there are times when Hill is physically out on the court but mentally some where else during stretches of game (not every game and not too often...but enough to notice). Is he thinking of the polar bears at the Indy Zoo? Is he distracted by a beautiful women in the stands? Did someone do something on Pacers Digest that bothered him ("Why the hell am I the 'Invisible Woman'" is what he might be thinking tonight)?

    Who knows...I sure don't.

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    What I've noticed about Hill (and I noticed it last season as well) is that there are times when Hill is physically out on the court but mentally some where else during stretches of game (not every game and not too often...but enough to notice). Is he thinking of the polar bears at the Indy Zoo? Is he distracted by a beautiful women in the stands? Did someone do something on Pacers Digest that bothered him ("Why the hell am I the 'Invisible Woman'" is what he might be thinking tonight)?

    Who knows...I sure don't.
    I think Gerald Green is the invisible woman.

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    I think Gerald Green is the invisible woman.
    Agreed on Green...I'm just talking about that picture in one of the other threads (I think it's the Paul George nickname one) as to what Hill might of been thinking of (and of course I'm joking)

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    I feel like that's happening more and more often. If he's not getting a lot of pass deflections, Hill has kind of turned into a lazy defensive player this year. He is routinely getting beaten on the defensive end, which is far different than his game last year.
    I wonder about his hip. Is it actually healed? Has he really gotten lazy or is he having trouble changing directions and dealing with his hips being constantly banged into by screens?
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    I wonder about his hip. Is it actually healed? Has he really gotten lazy or is he having trouble changing directions and dealing with his hips being constantly banged into by screens?
    He was playing for a contract last year, plus he wasn't playing good defense until later in the season. He was getting owned by Nelson and DC bailed us out the rest of that series. Hill doesn't have the lateral quickness to deal with quick guards. I do expect him to step it up when it starts to matter, at least he better.
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    He was playing for a contract last year, plus he wasn't playing good defense until later in the season. He was getting owned by Nelson and DC bailed us out the rest of that series. Hill doesn't have the lateral quickness to deal with quick guards. I do expect him to step it up when it starts to matter, at least he better.
    I thought even among quick guards, Jameer was a bit of an anomaly for Hill last year. He absolutely destroyed Hill. I personally think he's just devoting more energy to offense this season along with increased minutes. Maybe he's just tired, and letting him switch back and forth a bit guarding the 1 and 2 guards would help him a bit when we get to the fourth quarter.

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    Our PGs got hosed by Lillard tonight

    Ironic that I'm saying that regarding a rookie player
    To be fair, Hill isn't exactly a point guard.

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    To be fair, Hill isn't exactly a point guard.
    Not in the traditional sense, no, but he is still our starting PG.
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    Not in the traditional sense, no, but he is still our starting PG.
    Do you not see that as an issue with this team, particularly the ball movement Coach Vogel was referencing?

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    Do you not see that as an issue with this team, particularly the ball movement Coach Vogel was referencing?
    I do, but I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.
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    To be fair, Hill isn't exactly a point guard.

    Bird thought differently.

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    Bird thought differently.
    And Bird was flat out wrong, IMO. Hill struggles to run an offense, and just lacks the understanding, decision making, and passing ability to be a starting point guard, and our offense has been at the bottom of the league in efficiency as a result.

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    Bird thought differently.
    Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how you want to phrase the question, really. I highly doubt he would insist Hill is a traditional/natural point guard, but I'm sure he did feel like Hill could successfully be play at the position (as a player who is more of a general guard or a combo guard) for reasons other than being a traditional/natural point guard.

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    You have to think that jet lag might be a factor for our sluggishness on defense and inability to react to their fast paced jump shooting offense.

    To go from playing a 1pm game to playing what is a 10pm game on the other side of the country for Pacers players with only 1 day in between is pretty rough, even considering they get 1 day of "rest."

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    You have to think that jet lag might be a factor for our sluggishness on defense and inability to react to their fast paced jump shooting offense.

    To go from playing a 1pm game to playing what is a 10pm game on the other side of the country for Pacers players with only 1 day in between is pretty rough, even considering they get 1 day of "rest."


    Oh no, don't let vnzla call it a schedule loss.

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    You have to think that jet lag might be a factor for our sluggishness on defense and inability to react to their fast paced jump shooting offense.

    To go from playing a 1pm game to playing what is a 10pm game on the other side of the country for Pacers players with only 1 day in between is pretty rough, even considering they get 1 day of "rest."
    I'm sure that's a factor in a lot of west coast games. Hill and West were on twitter at 8am or so a few days ago.

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    You have to think that jet lag might be a factor for our sluggishness on defense and inability to react to their fast paced jump shooting offense.

    To go from playing a 1pm game to playing what is a 10pm game on the other side of the country for Pacers players with only 1 day in between is pretty rough, even considering they get 1 day of "rest."
    Did you intend to post this in green?

    I am often the first one to accept and understand with the NBA schedule some nights the schedule (not the opponent) is going to beat you, but that was not the case against the Blazers at all. An early afternoon game and then a 10:00 PM game sjhould make it much easier to adjust.

    No, this game was a case where the Blazers played really, really well, and the Pacers weren't very interested until it was way too late

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    lance is a lot faster then i thought, he needs to sprint up court a lot more when he gets the ball after the rebound or outlet, every time he did it last game it really caused problems for the blazers

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    Lillard is gonna be awesome.

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    This was not a schedule loss. They got into Portland Monday night and it is only a two hour difference from Memphis.

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    Oh no, don't let vnzla call it a schedule loss.
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    This was not a schedule loss. They got into Portland Monday night and it is only a two hour difference from Memphis.
    But it's 3 hours difference from here, and it doesn't change the fact that they have to flip their daily routine 9 hours in a span of 2 days.

    I didn't say it was a schedule loss, I was saying it provided a fatigue difficulty that resulted in slow reactions most of the game on defense. There are no such things as schedule losses.

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