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    Here's my question:

    Are we required to call Ron Ron "Metta World Peace?" Is this some kind of moral obligation since he filed some legal papers? Or is it simply a courtesy we pay to those who wish to change their name? Does Ron deserve this courtesy?

    Personally, I'm calling him Ron Artest. If I find a need to call him Metta, I will. But I don't know that I have to engage in weird, narcissistic and crazy if I don't want to. (It helps, for me personally, that I think Metta World Peace is an hysterical name. So I'm not bitter, just incredulous.)

    But, seriously, what do you guys think the moral and natural law is on this matter, the human and decency code? I still marvel that the announcers respectfully call him Metta World Peace.
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    I call him artest. I can't bring myself to call him world peace.

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    He should be called what he wants to be called, at least when addressing him directly, via conversation or through media. I don't think it matters what we call him here.

    I think it would be extremely childish to refuse to address him as World Peace just because you don't like the guy.

    How would you like it if someone refused to call you by your given name? I don't mean being given a nickname, I mean just calling you whatever name they think you should have, because they don't agree that you deserve the name you go by.
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    I think it would be extremely childish to refuse to address him as World Peace just because you don't like the guy.

    How would you like it if someone refused to call you by your given name?
    I like him. Always have.
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    I think the world peace thing is stupid. But if he goes so far as to jump through the hoops of legally changing his name to that? So be it.

    I've legally changed my name before. It's not a fun process. I'm certain I had a more practical reason for it than he did, but if I were to talk to the guy face to face, I'd feel disrespectful if I didn't respect his decision.

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    Doesn't Mike Breen still often call him "Artest"?

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    If I was talking to Ron face to face, I'd call him World Peace. Anything less could result in, well, who knows what really when you're dealing with him...

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    I think the world peace thing is stupid. But if he goes so far as to jump through the hoops of legally changing his name to that? So be it.

    I've legally changed my name before. It's not a fun process. I'm certain I had a more practical reason for it than he did, but if I were to talk to the guy face to face, I'd feel disrespectful if I didn't respect his decision.
    I think that's a reasonable position, and perhaps the right one. Not sure. It may depend on how seriously you can take the name. "Muhammed Ali" is a great example of a name change that was serious and sober, even though one might disagree with Islam, etc. But you can respect it.

    However if a friend of mine demanded that I now call him "Wacky smack fart-tard," well . . . I'm just probably not going to do it.

    Metta World Peace is right there on the edge.
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    Your friend obviously wouldn't have had that name legally changed. That's a big difference.

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    Your friend obviously wouldn't have had that name legally changed. That's a big difference.
    I know people who are crazy. We all do. Crazy people do crazy things.

    I think you might need to understand that a large percentage of people over the age 50 view Metta World Peace to be nearly as "obvious" as my example.

    But you agree that if it is "obvious" that the name is crazy, that we're not obligated to use it? Right? So, we don't have to defer to crazy. Now we're just deciding who defines crazy and sane. Probably shouldn't be the crazy person.
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    I know people who are crazy. We all do. Crazy people do crazy things.

    I think you might need to understand that a large percentage of people over the age 50 view Metta World Peace to be nearly as "obvious" as my example.

    But you agree that if it is "obvious" that the name is crazy, that we're not obligated to use it? Right? So, we don't have to defer to crazy. Now we're just deciding who defines crazy and sane. Probably shouldn't be the crazy person.
    That isn't what I meant. You have to state a reason for changing your name. A judge has to approve it, and the petitioner has to be sane enough to make the request. Ron can give a reason for changing his name to World Peace. Might not be a great one, but it's a reason. Wacky smack fart tard would have a more difficult time making his case, I suspect.
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    That isn't what I meant. You have to state a reason for changing your name. A judge has to approve it, and the petitioner has to be sane enough to make the request. Ron can give a reason for changing his name to World Peace. Might not be a great one, but it's a reason. Wacky smack fart tard would have a more difficult time, I suspect.
    So, you are saying if a judge approves it, it's not crazy? Do you agree with every decision handed down by a judge?

    We had a guy in Tennessee who ran for state office and changed his name to "Luke (low tax) Luper." Even the parenthesis were part of the legal name (approved by a judge, I guess.) He got more votes than he would have--kinda clever even if crazy--but not enough. A few days later he found the State Senator who opposed him and shot him dead.

    Luke (should I call him (low tax) also?) is now in jail.
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    A judge has to approve it, and the petitioner has to be sane enough to make the request.
    Here are some legal names, from a "sane" petitioner," and approved by a judge:

    "Adolf Lu Hitler Marak"

    "James Dr No From Russia with Love Goldfinger Thunderball You Only Live Twice On Her Majesty's Secret Service Diamonds Are Forever Live and Let Die The Man with the Golden Gun The Spy Who Loved Me Moonraker For Your Eyes Only Octopussy A View to a Kill The Living Daylights Licence to Kill Golden Eye Tomorrow Never Dies The World Is Not Enough Die Another Day Casino Royale Bond"

    "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116"

    "Yahoo Serious"

    "Ten Million"

    http://www.oddee.com/item_92594.aspx
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    So, you are saying if a judge approves it, it's not crazy? Do you agree with every decision handed down by a judge?

    We had a guy in Tennessee who ran for state office and changed his name to "Luke (low tax) Luper." Even the parenthesis were part of the legal name (approved by a judge, I guess.) He got more votes than he would have--kinda clever even if crazy--but not enough. A few days later he found the State Senator who opposed him and shot him dead.

    Luke (should I call him (low tax) also?) is now in jail.
    I'm not sure what that has to do with him changing his name. The act of changing his name seems like a sound decision to me, separate from everything else.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    I'm not sure what that has to do with him changing his name. The act of changing his name seems like a sound decision to me, separate from everything else.
    Would I be disrespecting him if he insisted I call him (low tax) but I chose not to?
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    Here are some legal names, from a "sane" petitioner," and approved by a judge:

    "Adolf Lu Hitler Marak"

    "James Dr No From Russia with Love Goldfinger Thunderball You Only Live Twice On Her Majesty's Secret Service Diamonds Are Forever Live and Let Die The Man with the Golden Gun The Spy Who Loved Me Moonraker For Your Eyes Only Octopussy A View to a Kill The Living Daylights Licence to Kill Golden Eye Tomorrow Never Dies The World Is Not Enough Die Another Day Casino Royale Bond"

    "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116"

    "Yahoo Serious"

    "Ten Million"

    http://www.oddee.com/item_92594.aspx
    Uh...did you read that link? Not one of those names mirrors world peace. 99% of them are either brith names, name changes in another country, or both.

    I don't know what the legal naming standards are in Sweden or india, but it seems Sweden rejected the really long stupid one you listed, so it isn't even a legal name there.
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    Would I be disrespecting him if he insisted I call him (low tax) but I chose not to?
    He murdered someone. That's a big difference.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    He murdered someone. That's a big difference.
    How about another Luke. Luke Montgomery legally changed his name (in America) to Luke Sissyfag. Would it be disrespectful not to call him that, even if he hasn't murdered anyone?
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    In my mind and forum conversations, I still call him Artest. If I knew him personally, I would just call him Metta. Isn't World Peace his last name? As an individual, there's not a lot people who I address by their last name.

    BTW, you two are taking this conversation way too serious....

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    A judge has to approve it, and the petitioner has to be sane enough to make the request.
    New York native Jose Luis Espinal changed his name to probably one of the most well-known names in the world—***** Christ. Mr. Christ received permission from Manhattan judge Diane Lebedeff and is now known as J****. When making her decision, Judge Lebedeff cited a 2001 case in Utah in which a man legally changed his name to "Santa Claus."
    http://www.legalzoom.com/marriage-di...s-name-changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76 View Post
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    BTW, you two are taking this conversation way too serious....
    It's kind of a personal hobby on a slow day to see if Kstat is able to backpedal in even the smallest tiny way.
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    I'm always going to call him Artest.

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    Love the Barbershop scenes!!!

    "His Mama named him 'Ron', I'm gonna call him 'Ron'."

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    Would you prefer to call him Mind of Whirled Pieces?

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    He is not worth the attention. Nor worth harboring bitterness. I don't care what he wants to be called. I am just soooooo over talking about him.

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