"I had to take her down like Chris Brown."
I must say... respect to the Grizzlies. They are a really nice team. I love their hustle and style. It's a pretty good milestone to beat such a good team in their home. Never did I think they pulled anything cheap or petty... they earned almost all of their points and just are truly a tough team.
Really fun game to watch.
Orlando Johnson looks like a legit player two years from now.
Great win! Keep it going and catch Miami! Great home stretch coming up they just have to finish this trip .500. They need home court and I feel like they have a real chance to get it this year once Granger returns.
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Asking him to create or facilitate is asking more than he did in NJ. But asking him to simply make the shot he's given, and pass the shots that he has no business shooting is well within reason.
In January, he's shot 27% from the field and 15% behind the line... that is just awful. He needs to go back to the drawing board.
He was making them around his average before his ankle injury. Ever since then he has shot around 18%. I'm guessing it's still affecting him.
For example, Gay comes over a high PnR, West hedges hard, tips away Gay's dribble. Gay recovers it about 10 feet away so West gets no stat for that, but the PnR was destroyed and West had time to retreat all the way back to the lane.
Conley tips Hill's pass, Hill tips Conley's pass. Tyler scraps for a rebound, Allen scraps for a rebound. Gay challenges a shot, Paul challenges a shot. It definitely was that heavyweight fight where the knockout couldn't be found as someone said.
Part of the reason Paul had all those assists was the tough Memphis DEF forcing more movement.
Player of the game to me was DAVID BAMF WEST who was just bezerk on defense. There aren't enough regular stats to show just how disruptive he was. The shot blocks were just a blip on the radar of what he did. He was rotating to people all over the place and he kept finding a way to get his hand on the ball. He knocked away more than one dribble that didn't get recovered for a steal (so no stat) and he rotated to tons of people in time to get in their face and force a missed shot.
He had a great defensive game about a week or two ago that I thought was his best as a Pacer, but this was even better than that. I mean he has just been on fire as a defender.
OJ sure has poise. He had a poor TO at one point but didn't get flustered and came back to make some more good plays.
DJ simply hitting 3s does wonders for the bench. He's still not ripping it up, but just a spot up shooter is a big asset.
What has happened to Green? I mean he is getting worse by the minute. Zero confidence. Wild speculation, but I sure hope it's not something behind the scenes that's wrecking his game because he does not look right. He made the right call on shots to take, he just doesn't look good executing anything right now. Even his hops are down a bit.
Roy was great on defense, but it seems like his offense might have slipped down yet another notch somehow. I used to think he was going to salvage that end of the court but its looking very unlikely now. At least he's an outstanding one-way player.
**** TRIPLE DOUBLE SIDEBAR******
Pacers now have near trip dubs from the 4 regular starters
Roy - legit
West - legit
Hill - lost it when assist was taken away
Paul - missed by one assist and Hill had an open 3 that would have been the 10th assist late
That's pretty crazy, 4 legit trip dub threats on one team. Not sure Danny could get the blocks, steals or assists to join that group, but he has the talent. But lets make Danny the Reggie player, big scorer who won't trip dub. Can you guys think of any Pacer team that would have had Reggie PLUS FOUR guys that each were trip dub threats?
Chuck (iffy), Det (obvious) and...Mike Williams or Smits? Not really, though Smits almost had one that I saw (missed on assist), and it wasn't that era.
Jax (sure), McKey (maybe), Smits or Dale? No
JO (sure), Ron (sure), Tins (did it) and....Al or Jack? Doesn't seem likely and Al especially would seem doubtful on assists or any defensive stat.
I agree that he's a good passer and creates opportunities for others, but I assumed with Vnzla's post, that by "shot creator" he meant ballhog that stops the offense completely but scores a lot. (Crawford (Washington), Monta etc). Players who I don't want on the team.
Redick is just an all around good player who I'd love to have as a Pacer. (Granted, I'd take Korver too.) But I also want to see how this team looks with Granger before we go looking for new toys. And I don't necessarily feel like we need anything. I mean sure, if Orlando will give us Redick for Green and a first, obviously take it...but we don't need to go trading away our good pieces right now because our good pieces have the ability to do a lot of damage in the playoffs, as is.
People whined about Barbosa in the playoffs but forget that he played through injury. Now, people want him back.
Currently, people whine about Green but also seem to forget that he is playing through injury. If we trade him and his shooting reverts back to normal after his ankle is 100% are we going to want him back as well and consider it a FO blunder that we traded him?
Just be patient
By the way, I didn't expect this win. I'm soooo glad that they proved me wrong
I just hope that now the majority of the board fully believes in the team now
Seth, I was going to thank your post but you kept using the term 'trip dub'.
FWIW, I thought Frank handled the Green/Orlando substitutions very well today. Green came in and just missed open shots, one an open three in transition and another a good open mid range shot off a pump fake. Vogel sensed he wasn't hitting (as usual) and put in Orlando. He then played Orlando exclusively in the second half. When you have such limited bench options, you have to go with what you have but you also have to flexible. Vogel did that very well today, no complaints from me for this game.
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