Like I've said before, I think Roy needs to be a Dikembe Mutombo type center with a slightly better offensive game. Mutombo averaged 9.8 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.8 bpg for his career. If he can anchor the D and average those numbers then he's worth the money.
Roy is averaging 8.3 RPG
Dikembe also shot 52% from the field....which is probably where most of the concern with Roy is coming from this year as he struggles to shoot even 40% which is pretty scary for a center....even more alarming is that a great deal of those shots are point-blank putback attempts that one would normally need to try pretty hard to miss...yet....
The day will come when the Pacers have to do something with Roy and his contract. Hes definitely a valuable player and person for any team...the problem is hes just not a max type player. And overpaying players is only going to handicap teams that much more as we move into the new luxury tax era. But that day wont come this season. But after this season and definitely after the following season the Pacers will have to listen very carefully to any and all offers for Roy-if there are any...
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I have a feeling Roy is going to return to his old-self on offence soon. He has been able to get to the rim which was my complaint last year. Once those touch shots start falling Roy will be worth the $. His defense has been great, his offence not so great, but Vogel still likes to run the offence through him a lot . I think one or the other has to give. Continue the way things are and wait for Roy to come out of his slump, or let Roy get his the majority of his offensive touches from rebounds and put backs. I would prefer the latter lately.
This is basically my only complaint about Vogel. But it also may be what makes him such a good coach. Its not like we are the eighth seed trying to stay with the top of the pack. And If Roy brings his FG% up, look out! I'll trust Frank. Hibbert has been getting the ball more often then not 5 feet from the rim or closer. That wasn't the case last year.
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I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.
There are several teams that would love to have Hibbert at the moment. Miami, Portland, Boston are prime examples of such teams.
We really couldn't manage without him. He is pivotal to our defense.
I hope no one, EVER, feels they are mot good enough to post here.
I come here for great Pacers (and NBA) talk from folks with multiple POV's. Though some higher ups may not like to talk about it, there are cliques here and its easy to get scared away.
Unless you are a TOTAL idjit or a total troll, please post.
Note: There are only a few members here that act this way from what i have read over the years. Most of the people i have came to know and talk to on here are great and i love having/reading the discussions on this board. Sometimes its just a select few who can ruin a discussion. And i'm all for everyone having thier opinions and i love hearing all the different opinions...thats what makes this board the best. But some people go overboard..."stupid" and "Not worth discussing" C'mon Man!
That's not what's happening here. We're saying regardless of how great he's been defensively, his offense is making his contract look bad. No one will trade value for Roy right now. If he doesn't get back to at least last years level offensively he'll end up a bad contract. When you're getting paid the max, you gotta do more than play D.
People keep trying to compare him to Chandler and Gasol, but I'm not seeing it. Chandler shot 65% the year Dallas won it. They're both clearly better players right now.
 No one would trade for Roy,  and if the Pacers could trade Roy they would not.  I would trade Roy in one to two seasons if he does not improve. Of course, such a trade would be difficult.  I believe that Roy will improve. Although he may not improve this season, I believe Roy will return to his former form.
For those who have found hope in Paul George, remember this: no man is an island. While stars win games, teams win championships. There is a reason LeBron left Cleveland. Among the many reasons, Cleveland was not committed to building a team suitable for LeBron to win a championship. In addition, the same thing could be said about countless other stars. While the Roy deal was controversial, at times holding is as good of a move as folding.