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    Stern works for the owners. Any good commissioner in his place would be doing what he's doing. Sorry, you can't blame him for this.

    If stern didn't care about the cities losing their teams, he wouldn't have worked so hard to get franchises back in places like Seattle and Charlotte. But he cannot get in the way of owners moving their teams. They do not work for him.
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    Of course KStat wouldn't have a problem with Sac-Town going after the Pacers if they lose the Kings..... He's a Pistons fan.
    Ah crap, thanks for the reminder. I used to know that.

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    CWebb, Kenny and Shaq chime in on recent events: http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tn...1-inside-5.nba
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    Default Re: Rumors coming from Seattle that the Maloofs have sold the Kings

    Kevin Johnson has a big announcement in 15 minutes the presser will be streamed here http://tunein.com/radio/CBS-Sports-1140-s33038/#


    Im excited hope it's a group or something big that will help them keep the Kings.

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    David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

    Local developer David Taylor, who helped put together the arena plan last year: "...we have a venue & a way forward to keep the team here."
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    Local investor Phil Oates: "it's time to fight...somebody wants something of mine...it's time to go down swinging."
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    Johnson: "there's a sense of urgency in this committee. And the time is ticking." Says he cancelled plans to attend Obama Inauguration in DC
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    Johnson: "As long as there's time on the clock, our community always finds a way to stand up for itself."
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    Johnson says he wanted to get 3 to 5 people to come in as local owners. In three days, he says 19 people have committed at least $1 million.
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    Johnson says the Kings "help shape and brand our entire region, the Sacramento region, not just the city of Sacramento."
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    Johnson says he can't disclose the names of the major equity partners today, perhaps by the end of the week.
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    Johnson: "we're going to do everything we can to put forth a competitive offer..."
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    Johnson's plan: identify local owners and equity partners, commitment for new arena, demonstrate the viability of the Sacramento market.
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    Johnson says Sacramento's model is similar to San Francisco's that kept the Giants there instead of moving to Florida.
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    Watching Sacramento CBS 13 live feed of Mayor Kevin Johnson's press conference detailing plans to keep Kings in Sacramento.
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    Phil Oats is bad *** he wants his team and I dont blame him I think they will get it done. That was a great listen.


    Quotes don't do what Oats said justice that dude was inspirational

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    I hope they stay in Sac, but how has the process been going on this long and they're just now trying to round up a group of buyers? It should have never have gotten to this point, if there's enough Sac businessmen to step up now.

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    I hope they stay in Sac, but how has the process been going on this long and they're just now trying to round up a group of buyers? It should have never have gotten to this point, if there's enough Sac businessmen to step up now.
    No they have a four part plan step 1 was getting local buyers to commit they got 19 people to commit at least 1 million dollars. They got this done in like 3 days.


    Kevin Johnson said step 2 should be done by the end of the week which is getting a majority owner and he said they are in the process of getting it done.


    step 3 commitment to a new arena at the downtown plaza for the city which will be way more than just a basketball arena he said.


    part 4 Demonstrate viability and strength of Sacramento market


    they will get it done KJ wont be denied that city has done everything to keep their team they better be able to keep it.


    If KJ wasn't the mayor the Kings would of left last year I honestly don't think KJ will let them leave he will fight to the death.

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    No they have a four part plan step 1 was getting local buyers to commit they got 19 people to commit at least 1 million dollars. They got this done in like 3 days.


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    Which is my exact point. This discussion has been going on for how many seasons now? We're they hoping Maloofs were bluffing? Not very smart.

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    Which is my exact point. This discussion has been going on for how many seasons now? We're they hoping Maloofs were bluffing? Not very smart.
    have you been following the story for the past 4 years? They had an agreement to keep the team in Sacramento had a plan to build a new arena last year both parties agreed and the douches that the Maloofs are backed out.

    If it wasnt for KJ the Kings would of left 3 or 4 years ago IMO.

    The Maloofs are the problem they are bankrupt last year they didn't plan to sell even though they are broke the reason they backed out after KJ gave them everything they ask for is because they are liars and broke and now they pretty much have to sell.

    The Maloofs were the ones who thought the city was bluffing and thats why it's got to this point.

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    Gotcha.

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    Gotcha.
    here is a good read from last season when they had a deal and the Maloofs backed out. After that scene on FEB 28th when the Maloofs and Johnson stood hand and hand and had a press conference

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...andshake-worth

    and the scene last year in feb when everyone agreed to the deal and the Kings were all set to stay due to the work of KJ and the rest of public officals.

    and then less than 2 months later the Maloofs hold the weirdest presser I have ever seen George looked high as a kite and crazy in it and they just came off as total douches backing out of an agreement. The Maloofs hotel business has went to **** ever since George took over they are a very dysfunctional family.


    here is a little bit of the presser where the Maloofs backed out of the agreement (I cant find the whole thing now I watched it on Kings.com then)

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    Which is my exact point. This discussion has been going on for how many seasons now? We're they hoping Maloofs were bluffing? Not very smart.
    quite frankly the reason Sacramento is behind on finding buyers is because the Maloofs. KJ was looking for buyers last year with the whole Anaheim move rumor, but at the time, the Maloofs said they weren't selling and then we reached the arena deal that they eventually backed out of. KJ has kept in touch with potential buyers and has now brought them back into the fold since the team is open for sale.

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    Breaking news: Ron Burkle and Mark Mastrov have joined forces with Kevin Johnson to make an offer to buy the Kings, keeping them in Sacramento. Yeah, that's our whale.

    http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?51045

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    Ah crap, thanks for the reminder. I used to know that.

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    SEASON: TEAM (RECORD) SELLOUT %
    85-86: Sonics (31-51) 48% | Kings (37-45) 100%
    86-87: Sonics (39-43) 50% | Kings (29-53) 100%
    87-88: Sonics (44-38) 69% | Kings (24-58) 100%
    88-89: Sonics (47-35) 74% | Kings (27-55) 100%
    89-90: Sonics (41-41) 70% | Kings (23-59) 100%
    90-91: Sonics (41-41) 71% | Kings (25-57) 100%
    91-92: Sonics (47-35) 82% | Kings (29-53) 100%
    92-93: Sonics (55-27) 89% | Kings (25-57) 100%
    93-94: Sonics (63-19) 85% | Kings (28-54) 100%
    94-95: Sonics (57-25) 90% | Kings (39-43) 100%
    95-96: Sonics (64-18) 100% | Kings (39-43) 100%
    96-97: Sonics (57-25) 100% | Kings (34-48) 100%
    97-98: Sonics (61-21) 100% | Kings (27-55) 85%
    98-99: Sonics (25-25) 100% | Kings (27-23) 96%
    99-00: Sonics (45-37) 87% | Kings (44-38) 100%
    00-01: Sonics (44-38) 91% | Kings (55-27) 100%
    01-02: Sonics (45-37) 90% | Kings (61-21) 100%
    02-03: Sonics (40-42) 91% | Kings (59-23) 100%
    03-04: Sonics (37-45) 89% | Kings (55-27) 100%
    04-05: Sonics (52-30) 96% | Kings (50-32) 100%
    05-06: Sonics (35-47) 94% | Kings (44-38) 100%
    06-07: Sonics (31-51) 93% | Kings (33-49) 100%
    07-08: Sonics (20-62) 79% | Kings (38-44) 81%

    The two cities concurrently hosted an NBA team for 23 seasons.

    Seattle's team had a better record in 14 of those 23 seasons, and had 14 playoff appearances to Sacramento's nine. Yet, despite those facts, Sacramento drew more sellouts in 19 of those 23 seasons, to only twice for Seattle. Seattle's (3.5M) also a much large metro area than Sacramento (2.2M).

    Just another night I read on this forum that Portland has the best fans in the league. Looking at these numbers, I think Sacramento gives them a run for their money. If you were mad that a mediocre NBA city like Seattle lost their team, you should be outraged that a great NBA city like Sacramento is about to lose theirs.

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    and then less than 2 months later the Maloofs hold the weirdest presser I have ever seen George looked high as a kite and crazy in it
    I was hoping you were exaggerating, but then I watched it. I felt one step removed from listening to Hunter S. Thompson tapes.

    I hope he wasn't driving when he left that presser.
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    OT and sorry to start a fight here but am I the only one that finds GrangeRushHibbert's avatar very offensive (the "America's Suicide Capital" part, not the photo), aside from being (I think) a forum rules violation?

    And GrangeRushHibbert have you ever even been to Portland before? And didn't we have a long thread on this very topic last year?

    FYI your facts are wrong anyway. http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...es-2011-7?op=1

    Sorry guys I really can't let this one go, super offensive. I've had friends and their family members commit suicide in my lifetime, it's nothing to joke about.

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    OT and sorry to start a fight here but am I the only one that finds GrangeRushHibbert's avatar very offensive (the "America's Suicide Capital" part, not the photo), aside from being (I think) a forum rules violation?

    And GrangeRushHibbert have you ever even been to Portland before? And didn't we have a long thread on this very topic last year?

    FYI your facts are wrong anyway. http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...es-2011-7?op=1

    Sorry guys I really can't let this one go, super offensive. I've had friends and their family members commit suicide in my lifetime, it's nothing to joke about.
    Pretty much agree with all of this. Terrible.

    I blocked that filth long ago. Do me a do me a favor and don't quote it.
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    Is today Troll GrangeRushHibbert Day? *****... I'm half tempted to hit the report button.

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    have you been following the story for the past 4 years? They had an agreement to keep the team in Sacramento had a plan to build a new arena last year both parties agreed and the douches that the Maloofs are backed out.
    It's funny because I was just ripping a game from last year and this exact item was on the crawl - the arena agreement was done and it would keep the Kings in town. I had forgotten about that.

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    The Maloofs should never be able to enter an NBA arena without getting booed!
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    Sacramento certainly has supported their team, I will not argue that in the least. But to be fair to Seattle I think the video/stats posted by Grangerushibbert is a bit misleading and understates the support Seattle had for the Sonics.

    One thing about the capacity numbers that seems incorrect is that they don't account for 2 issues in Seattle - they played 94-95 in the Tacoma Dome, not in Seattle, and before the Key Arena redo that year the arena held about 14,000 for basketball, and was upped to 17,000 afterward.

    Also along those lines you have one city getting a brand new team (see Indy selling out Colts games in year 1) and shortly after getting a new arena which was dramatically nicer than Key prior to it's own rebuild in 94-95 (it was nearly 30 years old, and SMALLER THAN ARCO even with the rebuild).

    So a new NBA show in town with only 10000 seats to sell for the first 3 seasons, then a brand new arena after that to refresh interest. Meanwhile a team is playing in something about 10 years older than MSA, has been around forever, and has a title and another Finals in it's recent history. For comparison just look at the dip in Sacto's own attendance once you get out past "new" and "winning" and into some "old news, down seasons" era, like 97-98 or 07-08.

    The year the new Key Arena opened they basically sold out the whole year. "Magically" they start selling 3000 more seats and reach that 17000 average attendance. Whoever made that video clearly forgot about the Key upgrade AND the fact that the Sonics used to schedule a few games in Tacoma much the way the Celtics used to play away from Boston (Hartford?).

    When you take into account that old Key Arena was 3000 seats smaller you see that the Sonics were 100% capacity for every 50 win season, apart from just missing it in 04-05. And given the fact that circa 85-86 the team had gone from title caliber to 31 wins, it's understandable that attendance that year was low. Wilkins had been fired after 31 wins and Bickerstaff came on and won 31 again in 85-86 when this chart starts.

    As soon as they started playing better the attendance went up and hit capacity during the prime winning seasons.

    And previously they'd been a massive draw too while playing in the KINGDOME (which had just opened). From 78-79 to 81-82 (4 seasons) they LED THE NBA in total attendance, even though in that 3rd season they were sub-500 and didn't make the playoffs. This is what a taste of winning and a cool new stadium can do for a fanbase, as well as having a big enough venue. They SET THE NBA RECORD for attendance at the time during the 78-79 season, just 7 years prior to the Kings start/chart start. They had at the time single game playoff records for attendance with a staggering 39,000 and 40,000 for 2 different games.

    They then started to slip AND moved back to Seattle Center/Key. With this their attendance fell back. The last 2 years of the Kingdome they were 10th and 20th in NBA attendance. The first year at Seattle Center they were last and the team was about to fire Wilkins for the first of two 31 win seasons.


    Adjusted numbers for smaller Key pre-update:

    85-86: Sonics (31-51) 57%
    86-87: Sonics (39-43) 62%
    87-88: Sonics (44-38) 86%
    88-89: Sonics (47-35) 92%
    89-90: Sonics (41-41) 87%
    90-91: Sonics (41-41) 89%
    91-92: Sonics (47-35) 100%
    92-93: Sonics (55-27) 100%
    93-94: Sonics (63-19) 100%

    94-95: Sonics (57-25) ??? - unsure if Tacoma Dome should be expected to hold 17K for Sonics games, if you live in Seattle or know someone who does then you know that Sonics season ticket holders in the Seattle area aren't just zipping 30-40 minutes over to Tacoma. This would be having the Warriors move down to San Jose for only 1 season, except that probably more ticket holders work in the San Jose or San Fran area than Sonics ticket holders live/work in Tacoma.




    The point is that Seattle earned it's rep long before Sacto had a team even. Comparing the new Kings in a new arena to the old Sonics in an old arena is about the same as comparing the Kings attendance currently vs 10 years ago. Seattle had proven to be one of the best NBA markets in the NBA despite not being a 1 team town. We might as well debate over whether Kansas City or Cleveland is the better NFL town.



    The other point is that I'm an uptight, detail oriented stats freak.

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    OT and sorry to start a fight here but am I the only one that finds GrangeRushHibbert's avatar very offensive (the "America's Suicide Capital" part, not the photo), aside from being (I think) a forum rules violation?

    And GrangeRushHibbert have you ever even been to Portland before? And didn't we have a long thread on this very topic last year?

    FYI your facts are wrong anyway. http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...es-2011-7?op=1

    Sorry guys I really can't let this one go, super offensive. I've had friends and their family members commit suicide in my lifetime, it's nothing to joke about.
    Thought Police on Patrol.

    Your personal life experience does not dictate what somebody else thinks about the city of Portland. Get over it.

    His Location tag was not directed at any individual in a derogatory way . I don't see how its worthy of your relentless scrutiny.
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