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    Default 1/8/2013 Game Thread #35: Pacers Vs. Heat

    WITNESS THIS!



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    Heat Index:
    Tom Haberstroh: Who's to blame for Miami's rebound woes?

    It seems the Heat have a rebounding problem.

    The defending champs rank in the bottom 10 overall in rebound rate and second to last
    on the offensive glass. This has generated heaps of criticism toward both Chris Bosh
    and the Heat's decision to embrace small-ball after winning the title with it.

    But here's the thing: The Heat have already ditched small-ball, and when they did, they
    became a worse rebounding team.

    This is Miami's rebounding paradox. Sunday's game against the Washington Wizards
    marked the one-month anniversary of Udonis Haslem's promotion to the starting lineup.
    On Dec. 6, Heat coach Erik Spoelstra, looking to shore up the increasingly problematic
    second unit, decided to insert Haslem into the starting five against the New York Knicks
    and bring Shane Battier off the bench as he rehabbed from his strained MCL.

    We can debate all day about the importance of starting lineups or the lack thereof, but
    this was a landmark move in the Heat's season. Spoelstra, at least temporarily, put the
    title-winning formula on hold by slotting two traditional big men next to LeBron James.

    Spoelstra went "big" and by doing so, it accomplished a couple of things. One, it
    allowed Joel Anthony to anchor the second unit's previously porous defense. So far,
    that's worked out and the defense has improved.

    Secondly, it gave the Heat an additional big man next to Bosh to help on the boards.
    Haslem is known as the Heat's rebounding specialist. Earlier this season, he became
    the franchise's all-time leading rebounder, and last season he ranked eighth in the NBA
    in defensive rebound rate.

    But the interesting thing is that Haslem's promotion has had the opposite effect on the
    Heat. Since Haslem entered the starting lineup, the Heat have ranked 24th in rebound
    rate. Before then: 21st.

    Dig deeper and the issue becomes clear: The Heat's "big" starting lineup has gotten
    crushed on the boards. The five-man unit with Haslem next to Mario Chalmers and the
    Big Three has played 189 minutes together this season, which ranks 26th in the league,
    according to NBA.com's advanced stats tool. Among the top 30 five-man units with the
    most minutes in the NBA, that Chalmers-Wade-James-Haslem-Bosh lineup ranks 28th
    in rebound rate, grabbing just 45.5 percent of all available rebounds. A 45.5 percent
    rebounding rate would rank last in the NBA behind the Dallas Mavericks.

    And it gets worse: That lineup gives up 19.3 second-chance points every 48 minutes --
    easily the highest rate among those 30 lineups. It's actually the highest rate of any of
    the top 50 teams in minutes.

    You want to know which lineup ranks 17th in rebounding among those 30 most
    common lineups?

    The Heat's "small" starting lineup with Battier. Yes, better than the Haslem lineup.

    How can this be?

    There's a big difference between rebounding on the individual level and on the team
    level. Individually, Haslem does very well on the boards; he averages 9.6 rebounds
    per 36 minutes, which is the highest in Miami's rotation. But on a team level, the
    Heat have actually done worse on the boards when he's on the floor this season.

    You know who in particular has done worse with Haslem on the court? Bosh. In fact,
    Bosh tallies 9.2 rebounds per 36 minutes with Haslem on the bench, according to
    NBA.comís advanced stats tool. When he plays next to Haslem: 5.8 rebounds per 36
    minutes.

    This is the opposite of the Bargnani Effect, the phenomenon when Bosh became an
    all-world rebounder when he played alongside Andrea Bargnani (the anti-Mr. Clean on
    the glass). When Bosh plays next to Battier in that starting lineup, he grabs 11.0
    rebounds every 36 minutes. Those are numbers that Heat fans want to see from Bosh.
    But Bosh's boards have been cut in half when he plays next to Haslem.

    Does Haslem steal Bosh's rebounds? And why do the Heat's rebounding numbers suffer
    when Haslem is on the court?

    These are very good questions...CONTINUE READING AT HEAT INDEX



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    Here is my official war cry.



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    Is Django Haslem's twin?

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    The Heat tend to coast in the regular season. But I don't think that they'll coast against us after the last playoff series.

    Then again they may coast because we're without Danny. So, you never know.

    In any case, I expect a good performance. I'd like to see us fighting all the way.
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    HIBBERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I don't know what is up but on my Directv receiver the game is NOT showing on the Guide at 673-1 like normal. And right now instead of pregame it is a Directv logo??

    Anyway... the pregame IS showing at 753-1 (which is a League Pass channel but in the past that would always be clear when the normal FSNI channel was showing the game).
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    Default Re: 1/8/2013 Game Thread #35: Pacers Vs. Heat

    DirecTV issue here too! NNNOOOOOOO!

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    Indiana Pacers@Pacers
    Pregame coverage begins now on @FSIndiana. Special note for viewers in Indiana: Find it on DirecTV Ch. 671 and Dish Ch. 418.

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    DirecTV issue here too! NNNOOOOOOO!

    But you can go to 753 and get it, right? (or 753-1)
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    But you can go to 753 and get it, right? (or 753-1)
    Yep.

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    671 works! Thanks!

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    Pregame coverage begins now on @FSIndiana. Special note for viewers in Indiana: Find it on DirecTV Ch. 671 and Dish Ch. 418.

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    thanks i was about to flip out

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    Thanks.... that makes all the sense in the world. Move Pacers games from 673 to 671 in the middle of the season. Especially when these are 'virtual' channels anyway so it's all mapping (IOW they could map the game to 671 AND 673 to eliminate confusion)....
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    Well... I had something I was going to do before the game but ended up spending the time trying to figure out why it wasn't where it was supposed to be on my Directv...
    Nuntius was right. I was wrong. Frank Vogel has retained his job.

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    Dang I really want to crush these guys.

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    Lance NOT looking afraid of DWade!

    Love it.

    EDIT: Wade with the And 1 on the other end. But still... Lance not looking apprehensive.
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    I hope Lance just keeps sticking it to them.

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    Man am I relieved to see Joey Crawford.....for the first time in my life....

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    Pacers don't feel like rebounding tonight
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    PAUL GEORGE COME ON WE NEED YOU AT OFFENSIVE END

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    Does anyone think Bosh will ever be called for a mad dog illegal screen?

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    Does anyone other than Stephenson wanna win?

    They all just sat there watching the ball, get the rebound!

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    Those long rebounds

    Lance could have one or two of them.
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    We have got to find a way to guard Bosh on that shot.

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    If LeBron got called for the "chicken wing" offensive foul even HALF as often as Roy does, he would foul out in 20 minutes every night.
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