Anything is better than Green at this point, sure let him play.
I have no expectations for Johnson or any real improvement from within until Granger returns, I simply think we have nothing to lose if we give him Greens minutes. With Green I'm to the point of wanting the team to buy him out at the end of the season if we could save anything to free up toward our cap space this summer. Maybe he'll turn it around during the second half of the season and prove me wrong, but I think it's time to admit a mistake was made with Green and DJ and move on from both this summer.
Once we get Granger back, the concerns about Orlando, Green and Sam Young will subside because they will play less minutes. I'd probably play Sam Young for his defense and give Orlando more chances. It's a shame Green isn't younger. He could use time to learn the fundamentals.
buying Gerald Green out at the end of the season will not have any effect on cap space. His contract amount stays on the cap.
Gerald can be an effective rotation guy. The more practice he has with the Pacer offense will improve his play. The guy has NBA skills, it is just a case of Frank Vogel learning how to best use them.
He took 8 shots in 11 minutes and still had better shot selection than Gerald Green.
like what im seeing from OJ. the vinny "microvave" johnson comparisons/potential are spot on.
what do you guys think of OJ's defensive capabilities so far?
To early to really say, but it has been adequate.
Talking about buying out Gerald Green? I mean would that extra cap space be that impactful?
If Walsh is still calling the shots I wouldn't want to do it though, there's too much of a chance that we'd just end up with another mediocre player on a long contract.
When a team buys out a contract they usually save some money and his contract can be stretched to count against the cap over a 5 year period. Thus if he agreed to a buyout of 6 mil for the 2 remaining years that could be stretched to only count against the cap for about 1.2 mil next year instead of the 3.5 mil he's currently owed.
Buying out Green is something the team should keep in mind if they need the cap space next summer. I don't see him helping the team so his contract is just dead weight.
Loved OJ's "if you guys aren't gonna shoot it then I will" attitude in the Bucks game. Far too often the Pacers pass the ball around the perimeter and run some lazy pick and rolls that don't stress the defense at all. OJ was bricking but at least the defense had to key in on him a little.
Sorry, guys, but this conversation is silly. We're not going to buy out Green after two months of seeing him play.
They'll play him all year, work with him in the offseason, and then see how he's doing. The earliest the FO would even think about cutting him would be next season, but even that I find unlikely.
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The key point about Lance is that Danny's return immediately will improve the bench by adding Lance to it. Suddenly, our bench will have that scoring punch it needed. Moreover, if last year's substitution patterns hold, Paul should get some burn with the second unit subbing in for Danny at the end of the 1st (or potentially the other way around). This means that there will be few moments when we have lineups without either Danny or Paul out there. Add Lance to a either of those guys at the end of the 1st/beginning of the first and we have a competent bench all of a sudden.
i dont think anyone actually expects the FO to cut green, just that many like myself preferred young to green.
also i still think its pretty important fro danny to come off the bench. at least to start off with. no need to mess up chemistry that vogel is so obsessed with. plus we really need a scorer off the bench and danny would be perfect.
if manu, harden, amare, mayo, etc are good enough to be a all star level 6th man. than so is danny.
plus people who think lance is going to be a volume scorer off the bench are going to be disappointed IMO. i really like lance and his game, but much like sefolosha, tony allen, or danny green. i think he's much more effective with the starters.
I remember that Bulls game at the end of the regular season, when Lance was given a green light. He produced then, and I believe he can produce now (as the focal point of the second team offense, to be clear).
Honestly, I'd like to see him handling the ball more with the second team of DJ/Lance/Green/Tyler/Ian. The Lance/Ian P&R should be lethal, especially if Lance keeps hitting jumpers.