so i would just prefer he shoot the hook and move on... least a shot with a chance going up.. some of these plays roys trying to make are joke.
Tyler has just dribbled the ball low, what is Garnett doing swinging at his head? Even if he was trying to block Tyler from going into a shooting motion there's no reason at all for him to defend like that.
I don't think he was trying to punch him out, but I think there's no way that was a play on the ball. That was KG flailing trying to be physical and force Tyler off his shot.
In any event, it sounds like any shot to the head, intentional or not, is likely to be considered an F2.
Another night, another backside-kicking. They just hit you from so many sides, now, in waves. It's like a cavalry, running down hill and trampling you underfoot. You have no tactical advantage, you're just swinging wildly in the mud, and the best strategy might be to play dead.
They are an absolute onslaught right now.
------------ Matt Moore, CBS Sports "Eye On Basketball", 11/12/13
why does it seem teams are trying to beat up on hans. he doesnt play dirty. thats something other players should respect. are they simply being told to intimidate hansbrough.
I can't remember when I've seen such a poorly played sloppy game from the Pacers. It was just disgusting, and I had to force myself to watch it due to the Pacers play.
Lets just hope it doesn't carry over to tonights game against Milwaukee.
That hit from KG is not a big deal, I've got hit worse by just playing pickup soccer or basketball.
Changing the topic from the mugging... Tyler made some moves last night that I had never seen him do before. He even used a mini euro step to split KG and Pierce! The up fake and slam was pretty sweet too it didnt even look like Tyler.
I do have legal training thank you. And obviously you are showing how utterly ridiculous you sound by not knowing the elements and legal definitions of battery and aggravated battery. If I walk up to someone and punch them in the face as hard as I can with the intent to harm them, that is aggravated battery. If I walk up to someone and push them with no intent to really harm them, that is battery. Aggravated simply means you intended to cause serious harm. Battery is any offensive touching.
I don't see how you could argue KG did not intend serious harm with that swing. You don't swing that hard at someone when you are that tall and strong up over 20 points without intending serious harm. You bring up the contact of a physical sport, well remember the guy that was charged in hockey for hitting someone with a stick? Same thing goes for basketball, hitting someone with a fist is outside of the normal contact rules of the game. Fist punches have never been a part of basketball on any level.
Yea but KG was just going for the ball, he did not intend Tyler any harm with that swing...LOL. And let's not forget that in civil court the burden of proof required is much lower. If this happened to a normal person on a basketball court with corroborating video to support it, a good lawyer would win in civil court.
And I laugh at Vnzla saying he's been hit harder in soccer. Dude has never been hit that hard in his life playing sports I bet. If KG hit him that hard he would be in the hospital right now.
Without a doubt. I loved it last year when Sanders got a dose of Danny and West at the same time and decided the fight was over.
By the way, KG's flagrant came just a few trips after he previously had fouled Tyler extremely hard, enough that it caught my attention that maybe Tyler's play was getting under his skin. So to me it felt very much like a continuation of a theme KG had been running which is to punk out and get away with as much intimidation as possible, his standard mode of operation. All he was missing was getting down on all fours and barking at Tyler.
Whatever KG's skills have been, he's still a complete tool on the court. And that's not my opinion due to Pacers games, that's due to all the other s*** he pulls including his childish behavior toward Ray Allen.
You show some understanding of the legal issues involved where there is potential civil liability on the basketball court. But I don't think Garnett's actions rose to that level. While a flagrant 2, I think he was just playing rough, not really attempting to hurt Tyler. Yes, he was swinging his arms but it just wasn't that far from normal play.
While the burden is low in a civil case (51%), the burden still rests on the plaintiff and the difficulty of getting that in this case is unlikely.
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You're probably right. I'm more than likely just letting my emotions get in the way of the real picture. Still it was a dirty play that has no place in basketball. Was it battery? There's at least a 90 percent chance that it wasn't. Should he be suspended? I think for at least two games. Will he be suspended? Probably not. He will get off on the "making a play on the ball" excuse, which in this case is bogus in my opinion. The slap earlier in the game shows intent.
He meant to punish Tyler there. I truly believe that. Players are out to punish him for the way he plays I guess, like previous posters have noted. I have seen it so many times I have lost count. But the thing that irks me is that Tyler seems to play within the rules. Maybe that is debatable. But other players don't like that about him so they take shots at him that are way outside of the scope of a hard foul in basketball. I guess the argument is what is an acceptable hard foul and what is a dirty play. Tyler takes several acceptable hard fouls a game, more than most any player in my memory. He also has received a number of dirty fouls that have no place in the league in retaliation to his play. I for some reason believe this was one of them.
I guess that is more debatable than I believe it to be, but I guess that comes with being a true fan of a team and it's players. You get emotionally attached. If not sports wouldn't be near as fun for most people.
How many bench players does Kevin Garnett have to pick on before someone calls him for what he is? A fake tough guy.
Danny even if he went a bit over the top in his man to man act with Lebron in the playoffs last year at least went after the best player in the league.