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    It doesn't matter what Luck had or didn't have at his disposal. It matters what kind of stats he put up. RGIII put up great stats. I fully expect that Luck in the long term will close the gap or be even better than RG but ROY goes to one of the other two. I will trade two wins in the playoffs for the ROY any day.

    We beat the team that just beat the Bengals. I'm excited about tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vapacersfan View Post
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    Yeah, or people can talk about whatever they please.

    Bias is a real issue, and one that should not be ignored.

    That said, its obvious there is a Pacers and Colts bias here. Which is pretty much what I said originally.

    There is no harm in stating the obvious, even if people dont like hearing they are being biased irrational fans.
    Dude, wtf? So because I root for the Colts and I have firm argument to believe that Luck has been the best rookie, that makes me a biased irrational fan? And you aren't?

    I have never gone overboard in my support of Luck. I've said from the beginning that he's the best player in my mind, it's why he went #1 and he's done nothing to prove my regard otherwise. Ive given the other props, but I can't honestly sit here and say they are better because I dont believe it. I've been watching the NFL for 20+ years, and I know what I value in a bluechip prospect. Luck is it. I'd still recognize that fact even if I was a fan of another team. Just because my team drafted the player that I easily recognize as the best overall player doesnt make me biased. It makes me a fan of football and the Colts who just so happens to be a fan of the team that drafted who I felt was the best player.

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    I feel like I have already explained myself 10 times in this thread.

    Yes, you are a biased fan. Yes, from my experience you are irrational at times and stick to your guns that you are the only one who knows what you are talking about and 100% correct.

    But guess what, so are MOST fanatics. Hence why I said those who post here (or similar sites) are all biased.

    I am not sure I can make that more clear....

    PS. The comment you have never gone overboard in your support of Luck is laughable. Which is whatever. But ima calla spade a spade. And congrats on watching the NFL for 20+ years. I just turned 27, so I can almost say I have been watching the NFL for 30 years.

    PPS. The part I bolded makes my point for me. Thank you
    Wow you went from good poster to jackass quickly. O_O

    And Ive been WATCHING for 20+, not from the day I was born. I'm a lot older than you.

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    Truth hurts........
    Not really, I'm still the same old Kid Minny, despite the awesome wisdom your unbiased posts are inflicting upon me, lol.... gotta be kiddin me.

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    I don't know why you're comparing age. I simply said I've been watching for 20 years and I'm basing my opinion off of what I've gathered from watching during that 20 years to determine that Luck possesses the traits that I recognize as top-flight.

    You seem to be like... competing with me or something. I don't give a ***** if I'm older than you, you were just like "OOOH check me out i'm 27 so I've been watching longer than you."

    What the heck happened to you, I started a vote for Luck thread and you come riding in on your high horse calling all of us biased homer fans.
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    Just stop dude. I'm gonna head on out, so not gonna read anymore. Vote for Luck.
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    Can we just start an official pissfest thread and keep this crap out of the rest of everything.
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    Fair enough. I am done.

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    all the Luck naysayers cry about his high TO numbers. Let me ask this: How many TO's does Luck have when the game was on the line in the 4th quarter? ZERO!!!!! His high TO numbers are irrelevant. Spare me with the nonsense of meaningless stats
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    here is an interesting stat that I just saw on twitter


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    Colts Andrew Luck has not completed over 50% of his passes in his last 5 games, which is longest streak for NFL starter in TEN years.



    and to say all the TOs he has thrown/fumbled is irreverent is so lol. So will it be meaningless if he throws 3 picks today or what? I just don't get the Colts fans picking and choosing of what is good and bad.

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    I don't get you, really, so that's cool. You have a horrible attitude. Don't know why you spend so much time on the Colts board when you don't like the team and you think we're all idiots, and we really aren't persuaded by your "wisdom".

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    all the Luck naysayers cry about his high TO numbers. Let me ask this: How many TO's does Luck have when the game was on the line in the 4th quarter? ZERO!!!!! His high TO numbers are irrelevant. Spare me with the nonsense of meaningless stats
    If you think turnovers and completion percentage are useless stats then idk what to tell ya

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    Griffin already has twice as many TD's in the 1st qtr as Luck had in the entire game. Kinda hurts Lucks chances

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacer4ever View Post
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    here is an interesting stat that I just saw on twitter


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    Colts Andrew Luck has not completed over 50% of his passes in his last 5 games, which is longest streak for NFL starter in TEN years.



    and to say all the TOs he has thrown/fumbled is irreverent is so lol. So will it be meaningless if he throws 3 picks today or what? I just don't get the Colts fans picking and choosing of what is good and bad.
    I think it matters for sure, but Wilson throws a pic 2.5% of the time, Luck throws a pick 2.8% of the time, that is not super far off, the big difference is Luck has thrown WAY more passes... and the 50% thing sucks and is something that is held against him, but when looking at that as well you have to think about why is he throwing all those picks.
    Why so SERIOUS

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    I would also like to add one thing, if you looked at the Colts game earlier and are looking at this game now, just look how long Wilson has to throw the ball compared to how long Luck had, there is a biggg difference.
    Why so SERIOUS

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    I just don't get the Colts fans picking and choosing of what is good and bad.
    Kinda like you choosing to ignore the fact that both Griffin and Wilson are the beneficiaries of playing with better running games, line play, and defenses? Alrighty then...

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    That is why I love Wilson kid is a leader has something you cant teach gotta love that block he just threw. Too bad RG isnt healthy we would probably get a better game. It will truly be greatness if he can do anything on his 1 leg here.

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    Legs aren't supposed to bend that way...

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    maaaaaaan, football is such a bummer sport. I hope he's alright.

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    Shame on them for having him out there he has been at like 20% all day. Just ridiculous on the Skins part IMO.


    EDIT: O God just saw that replay that is terrible just stupid by the Skins. Should of listened to doctor Andrews.

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    Griffin already has twice as many TD's in the 1st qtr as Luck had in the entire game. Kinda hurts Lucks chances
    Annnd now Griffin is upstaging the injured griffin. I'll say this, these other two teams have way better defense's as well as O-Line play than the colts have. I personally don't think that should factor into how good a QB is graded as much as many fans on this board, but the differences are noticeable.

    Edit: maybe not the o line for the skins lol
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    I kept wondering why on earth they had him out there when they know Cousins can play well enough for them to win.

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    Good thing that RGIII is still a good pocket passer, but wow that sucks....
    Why so SERIOUS

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    Everybody is entitled to their own opinions for the ROY debate, there is no definite answer.

    However, I will say this. Watching the Skins/Seahawks game just now, I was jealous the entire game watching Wilson and RGIII have so much time to throw and incredible running backs.

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    Everybody is entitled to their own opinions for the ROY debate, there is no definite answer.

    However, I will say this. Watching the Skins/Seahawks game just now, I was jealous the entire game watching Wilson and RGIII have so much time to throw and incredible running backs.
    I think Vick Ballard is really quite good, especially when you consider the line he's running behind. We're not quite as bad run blocking as pass blocking, but we're still below average.

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