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    This absolutely made my morning. I almost plopped down $160 a few days ago for League Pass. Glad I waited.

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/other...b6dd52285.html

    The St. Louis Pacers, anyone?

    The NBA’s Indiana Pacers aren’t making the move from Indianapolis to Missouri’s largest market, but they are going to have a major television presence here for the rest of their season.

    Fox Sports Midwest has struck a deal to televise 38 of Indiana’s 50 remaining games, starting tonight when they play in Boston at 7 (St. Louis time) and followed at 6 p.m. Saturday with their meeting with Milwaukee.

    Fox Sports Midwest general manager Jack Donovan said live sports telecasts are a priority, that the goal is to have “games on every night of the week’’ whether it be the Cardinals, Blues, colleges or high schools. He said the absence of Blues games because of the NHL lockout had no impact on adding the Pacers.

    “We wanted to get this up and running at the start of the NBA season,’’ he said, but it took a while to get the deal done. And although the schedule could change a bit if the NHL labor stalemate is broken, it probably would not be major revision.

    The games tonight and Saturday will appear on Fox Sports Plus, the outlet to which spillover programming is sent when another event airs on the “main’’ channel. The location of FSM-Plus varies by programming provider, and most of the Pacers’ telecasts will be there — only eight of the 38 games on the schedule are set for the primary FSM channel. The first of those is at 6 p.m. Tuesday when Indiana faces defending NBA champ Miami.

    On the surface it appears that the Pacers, who lead the NBA Central Division, are a low priority for FSM’s main outlet — a women’s basketball game between Northern Iowa and Illinois State is set for tonight while the NBA goes to the secondary option. But Donovan said it’s a complex scheduling situation.

    “There are a lot of different contracts and promises we’ve made to teams and leagues,’’ he said. “We’re trying to find the right balance.’’

    Donovan said FSM-Plus is “widely available’’ in most cases. However, DirecTV and Dish Network are not on board yet for the Pacers telecasts on either outlet because of a technical issue that is being addressed.

    St. Louis is in a bit of a no-man’s land for pro basketball, with the Pacers, Chicago Bulls and Memphis Grizzlies all being within about 250-300 miles of St. Louis. FSM had been considering airing a mix of Pacers, Grizzlies and Oklahoma City Thunder telecasts (they all are properties of a Fox regional outlet) but it will show only the Pacers for now.

    “This is a start,’’ Donovan said. “Maybe that’s something we can do at another time.’’

    Nonetheless, the fact an NBA team is going to be shown on a regular basis in this market is a breakthrough. FSM will pick up Fox Sports Indiana’s telecasts. Chris Denari does play-by-play with either Quinn Buckner or Austin Croshere on commentary. Quinn has the call tonight.

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    Great exposure for the team and great news for you! I used to live in Springfield, Missouri back in the late 90's and they would advertise Pacers games on FSMW but never show them! Used to drive me crazy!!

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    Maybe we can get some of that money back that we have been giving to their defunct ABA team.
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    FSMidwest blacked out, even though it's my RSN....Is it working for those of you in Indy or elsewhere??

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    FSMidwest blacked out, even though it's my RSN....Is it working for those of you in Indy or elsewhere??
    Didn't work for me either. I was quite angry. Called Directv and they didn't offer me anything that helped. Said they were still 'negotiating' to make this happen, but I'm not sure what that even mean since the Pacers and FSMidwest already cut a deal.

    My Dad called (he's a Directv customer as well) and they told him it was on in the St. Louis area. When my Dad mentioned that we're right smack in between St. Louis and Indy (a.k.a. closer to Indy than St. Louis is), the guy said, 'Yeah, you're right. That doesn't make sense that you wouldn't be getting it.' So...I have no idea.

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    I guess it's actually kind of a return moreso than "coming to" Fox Sports Midwest.

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    I guess it's actually kind of a return moreso than "coming to" Fox Sports Midwest.
    Really? When were the Pacers originally on FS Midwest?

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    My understanding is that the ONLY DMA's that are within FSMidWest's RSN that will not get Pacers games are the Kansas City and St. Joseph, MO DMA's....Anything else that gets FSMidWest as their RSN should be able to get all the games....

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    Hopefully this will help the financial situation of the Pacers too.

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    Thank you NHL for being just as greedy as the NBA??

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    Thank you NHL for being just as greedy as the NBA??
    Just as? The NHL is about to lose its second full season in 6 years or something like that to a lockout. Even the NBA players union and owners aren't THAT crazy.
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    Here is my latest convo with Dish...

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    Here's the deal....Fox Sports MidWest signed a deal with the Indiana Pacers making them the "home" NBA team for the STL area....Which is my RSN....Indiana Pacers games are now shown on FSMidWest, and their spillover channel FSMidWest+ (FSMidWest+ isn't available to Dish customers, but it is available to cable and DirectTV customers....Please fix this), but for some reason last night, even though FSMidWest is my RSN, and the Pacers are now my Home NBA team, the Pacers game was blacked out to me....I had to go watch the game at a neighbors house (Cable subscriber). Can you please explain to me why I am not able to watch the games on my RSN....Here is a link to the announcement of the contract that effectively brings Pacers games to residents in Missouri and Illinois....

    http://www.foxsportsindiana.com/01/0...blockID=844653 I understand not being able to watch the games that are on FSMidwest+ because Dish doesn't offer that channel (please make it available), but I cannot for the life of me understand why I am not able to watch the games televised on FSMidWest (my RSN)....I called Dish support last night and was told by the operator that the game was blacked out to EVERYONE on FSMidWest which is just as puzzling. I explained everything to her about the RSN, Pacers being my home NBA team, etc etc, but she told me it was FSWidWest and the NBA that I needed to contact because there was nothing she could do.

    I am not expecting miracles, nor am I expecting Dish to do something illegal such as televising out of network games to me, but I do expect to be able to watch games that are in my RSN. It puzzles me why my neighbor (Cable customer) was able to watch the game on FSMidWest and I wasn't. It is infuriating to say the least, and I would be lying if I said the thought of switching providers so that I can watch Pacers games hasn't crossed my mind.

    Please advise me on what I can do, or what I can expect to be done regarding this issue. Watching my favorite NBA team, the Pacers (yes I am really a true, blue, Pacers fan) is one of my guilty pleasures, and will weigh heavily on any decision I make regarding my television/cable/satellite service.

    My account info is as follows:
    Account Number: ******
    AccountHolder: ******
    AccountPIN: ****

    Thank you in advance for any help or information you can give me regarding this issue.

    Pacers games to air on FOX Sports Midwest
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    Indiana Pacers games to air in Missouri and Illinois on FOX Sports Midwest and FOX Sports Midwest Plus

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    Joe, we normally broadcast a RSN + channel on an alternate channel when there is a game. For example on Saturday 1/12 the Bobcats at Pacers game will be shown on channel 445 or 446. Here is a link to our game finder that should help you locate these games. http://bit.ly/PXar0S - Zach S

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    Locating the games is not the issue....The issue is the fact that it was blacked out last night. Also, the channel that you have listed on 445 or 446 is listed as FSMidWest alternate, but when the games are aired, they are listed as FSIndiana, and again, blacked out to me....

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    I apologize, after double checking your account it appears this games will be blacked out. You will have access to Chicago Bulls games based off your zip code. I have forwarded the link you provided to our programming team. - Zach S

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    Here is another link that you could forward on. This link is from the NBA, and officially lists the games, channels, and DMA's they should be available in....

    "This schedule of Pacers telecasts will be distributed in Illinois, St. Louis and mid-Missouri in these DMAs: Champaign-Springfield, Peoria, Paducah-Cape Girardeau, St. Louis, Columbia-Jefferson City, Quincy-Hannibal, Ottumwa-Kirksville, Rockford, Springfield (Mo.), Joplin, Davenport-Rock Island-Moline."
    http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/fox-s...souri-illinois

    I am VERY shocked that it is taking customer complaints and information to make Dish aware of these changes..... I would think this is something that should be handled by Dish and the FCC seeing as the FCC creates and maintains the DMAs....Is this something that I would need to contact the FCC regarding since Dish is blocking my access to programming within my DMA??

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    If you'd like I would be able to transfer you to our Executive Resolutions Team. They would be able to assist you further. I would just need a good contact number and time to call. - Zach S

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    That might be the best resolution at this point. They may contact me any time after 4:00PM CST at ***-***-****.
    See where this gets us....
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    Just as? The NHL is about to lose its second full season in 6 years or something like that to a lockout. Even the NBA players union and owners aren't THAT crazy.

    As an NHL fan, it's a sore subject and Gary Bettman is the worst commissioner on the planet. But from the quotes there, it sounds like something Fox Sports Midwest may try to do moving forward--airing more NBA games (regardless of whether the NHL is playing or not). In my initial excitement, I glossed over the fact that only 8 games are going to be on the primary FSMW channel. I went to set my DVR, saw the game wasn't listed tonight and then saw in the article about the FSM-Plus channel, which I don't get because I have Directv. I may give them a call after work today to see what's up. Hopefully that situation will be resolved soon enough.

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    When they first came onboard in 1997. It wasn't until FS got the exclusive rights to all of the games that FSI came online.
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    Yeah, to me FSI is still the oddity. Every now and then I'll stop at FSMW and wonder where the Pacers game is.

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    The Pacers started their cable package on Prime Sports Midwest, based out of St. Louis in the late 80s or early 90s. They then got into a territory battle with SportsChannel Ohio (Cincinnatti) over the Indianapolis region. Back in college, I could get Prime Sports Midwest in Upland and Marion and watched the Pacers home games, while my parents in Greenwood did not have it as an option and could only watch the road games on Channel 4/59.

    Prime Sports was acquied by Fox in the mid 1990s. For about a decade the Pacers were on the "Fox Sports Midwest" alternate channel, which was a subfeed. This subfeed may not have been available in the St. Louis market even though "parent company" was there. Fox Sports Indianapolis was a relatively new entity when the Pacers moved exclusively to cable.

    There would typically be a signficant scheduling conflict with the Blues. Back when both were on FSMW, I don't think we got the Blues games here and I don't think they got the Pacers games there.

    History here...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Sports_Midwest#History


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    From the way people are talking about it, it seems that FSI and FSMW doesn't work the same for everyone. As for me I only get FSMW, but when there is a Pacer game it switches over to FSI. From what others are saying it sounds like some of you have a sole FSI channel along side FSMW, unless I am just interpreting what you guys are saying wrongly.

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    From the way people are talking about it, it seems that FSI and FSMW doesn't work the same for everyone. As for me I only get FSMW, but when there is a Pacer game it switches over to FSI. From what others are saying it sounds like some of you have a sole FSI channel along side FSMW, unless I am just interpreting what you guys are saying wrongly.
    That's the way it seems to work on Comcast. On DirecTV and Dish it creates a side channel.
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    Whoa wait a minute...does that mean FSIndiana won't be airing the Pacers games now???

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    No. FSI will continue airing the games as if nothing happened. This is just putting some Pacers games on the FSMW mothership for the St Louis area.
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    I am a little confused on this as well....I live in Illinois, just on the border, 7 miles from Terre Haute. Since I live in Illinois, I am listed as being in the Bulls market which gives me Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD for all the Cubs/White Sox/Bulls/BlackHawks games, and FS MidWest HD for all Cardinals/Blues games. That being said, I currently get FoxMW, but no FSI through Dish. My FoxMW is on channel 418, but I also have channel 443 that shows as Alt, and states it is "Sports Alternate: This channel is provided for additional sports programming. (Programming subject to blackouts)". Channel 443 shows all the Pacers games, but I am blacked out from all of them. The info for the Pacers games shown on that channel is "FOXMW Alt" which a little digging on the internet shows is actually FSI....Will I now get the Pacers games on my FoxMW, will the Alt channel now be available to me, will FoxMW give me a blackout?? I am so confused....

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    I am a little confused on this as well....I live in Illinois, just on the border, 7 miles from Terre Haute. Since I live in Illinois, I am listed as being in the Bulls market which gives me Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD for all the Cubs/White Sox/Bulls/BlackHawks games, and FS MidWest HD for all Cardinals/Blues games. That being said, I currently get FoxMW, but no FSI through Dish. My FoxMW is on channel 418, but I also have channel 443 that shows as Alt, and states it is "Sports Alternate: This channel is provided for additional sports programming. (Programming subject to blackouts)". Channel 443 shows all the Pacers games, but I am blacked out from all of them. The info for the Pacers games shown on that channel is "FOXMW Alt" which a little digging on the internet shows is actually FSI....Will I now get the Pacers games on my FoxMW, will the Alt channel now be available to me, will FoxMW give me a blackout?? I am so confused....
    I would think that this now indicates the Pacers are the "home" NBA team in the StL market, and you seem to be included in the StL market, so you will hopefully start getting them on FSMW. Good luck!
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    I would think that this now indicates the Pacers are the "home" NBA team in the StL market, and you seem to be included in the StL market, so you will hopefully start getting them on FSMW. Good luck!
    Well, I just got done "chatting" with Dish support....Pointless to say the least, but they did confirm that as far as Regional Sports Networks go, the Indiana Pacers are now considered the Home NBA team in the STL market, and will not be blacked out when they air on FoxMW.....As for FoxMW+ the agent had no clue what I was talking about.....so guess we sit back and wait to see what happens....

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    Will I now get the Pacers games on my FoxMW, will the Alt channel now be available to me, will FoxMW give me a blackout?? I am so confused....
    Since it sounds like you are in the Blues FSMW area affected, you might very well get the Pacer games on FSMW.

    The only kicker would be some Fox exclusivity contract for those covered by a different alt channel.
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    I am a little confused on this as well....I live in Illinois, just on the border, 7 miles from Terre Haute. Since I live in Illinois, I am listed as being in the Bulls market which gives me Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD for all the Cubs/White Sox/Bulls/BlackHawks games, and FS MidWest HD for all Cardinals/Blues games. That being said, I currently get FoxMW, but no FSI through Dish. My FoxMW is on channel 418, but I also have channel 443 that shows as Alt, and states it is "Sports Alternate: This channel is provided for additional sports programming. (Programming subject to blackouts)". Channel 443 shows all the Pacers games, but I am blacked out from all of them. The info for the Pacers games shown on that channel is "FOXMW Alt" which a little digging on the internet shows is actually FSI....Will I now get the Pacers games on my FoxMW, will the Alt channel now be available to me, will FoxMW give me a blackout?? I am so confused....
    I'm in the same boat. I live about an hour west of Terre Haute/Indiana border. From what I understand, 8 of the games are going to be on FSMidwest, the main channel (418 for you, 671 for me on Directv). There is a Fox Sports Midwest-Plus channel that right now isn't listed on Directv (and per the article, isn't on Dish either). That's a channel I've watched the Blues on when the Cardinals were playing and vice versa. So I'm not sure why that it is not available at this time. I did email both Directv and Fox Sports Midwest to get more information on it. But my understanding is that those of us in the Bulls 'market' will now have access to Pacers game through FS Midwest, as long as we get that Plus channel. So it's up in the air. I've set my DVR for FSIndiana feed tonight just in case I might get it. I'm intrigued to see what happens.

    Here is a quote from the article I linked to earlier. Hopefully it will lend a bit of clarity:

    The games tonight and Saturday will appear on Fox Sports Plus, the outlet to which spillover programming is sent when another event airs on the “main’’ channel. The location of FSM-Plus varies by programming provider, and most of the Pacers’ telecasts will be there — only eight of the 38 games on the schedule are set for the primary FSM channel. The first of those is at 6 p.m. Tuesday when Indiana faces defending NBA champ Miami.

    On the surface it appears that the Pacers, who lead the NBA Central Division, are a low priority for FSM’s main outlet — a women’s basketball game between Northern Iowa and Illinois State is set for tonight while the NBA goes to the secondary option. But Donovan said it’s a complex scheduling situation.

    “There are a lot of different contracts and promises we’ve made to teams and leagues,’’ he said. “We’re trying to find the right balance.’’

    Donovan said FSM-Plus is “widely available’’ in most cases. However, DirecTV and Dish Network are not on board yet for the Pacers telecasts on either outlet because of a technical issue that is being addressed.
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