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  • Another ESPN request

    Can someone post this:

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/columns...had&id=1942464

    And this:

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=6694

    ?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Another ESPN request

    Ask NBA Insider Chad Ford!

    Welcome to The Show! On Thursday, ESPN NBA Insider Chad Ford will drop by to take your questions.
    Ford writes the daily NBA Insider column for ESPN Insider. He also in a frequent contributer to ESPN.com and ESPN the Magazine and makes weekly apperances on ESPN Radio and ESPNEWS.

    Send your questions now and join Chad in The Show at noon ET on Thursday!

    Chad Ford: Hey everyone, I'm here. It might be a little slow today. I broke my finger playing hoops last night and the typing is a little slow. Let's roll




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    Gaius (Toronto, ONT): Are the Sonics for real, especially after winning in S.A. last night?

    Chad Ford: I'm going to have to concede that they're not a fluke. Not after the teams they've beat. Just don't ask me how they're doing it. Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis and ... ??? Amazing.


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    Blake (Vermillion, SD): Will Malone be wearing a San Antonio uniform after the new year?

    Chad Ford: I think so, he's narrowed it down to the Spurs, T'Wolves and Heat. I think the Spurs are the frontrunners now that Kobe has kicked The Mailman to the curb.


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    scott, atlanta, ga: As a longtime Laker fan, Kobe perception as a teammate is killing us. Do you think we will be able to attract needed free agents in the future?

    Chad Ford: It's a real problem. He has a rep around the league as being difficult to play with. Losing Karl Malone isn't really the issue, he doesn't have much left. The problem is recruiting free agents in the future. What top flight free agent is really going to want to come to L.A. and put up with Kobe?


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    Kevin (Charlotte): Don't you think that Karl Malone is over reacting to what Kobe said? Kobe did have very valid points to what he said.

    Chad Ford: Yes, Karl has a history of overreacting to everything. The bigger point here is not whether the Lakers need Malone, it's why Kobe, not Mitch Kupchak, is delivering that message. I don't think Malone would have helped the Lakers. But, the way it was handled hurt the Lakers rep as a free agent friendly destination.


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    Brian (Englewood, NJ): On ESPN radio in New York there are reports that the Knicks and Raptors are talking about a trade involving Alan Houston and Vince Carter. I know you wrote Carter is off the block right now but what about this one?

    Chad Ford: The Raptors definitely want to trade Carter, but they won't take back bad contracts just to move him. The Knicks have nothing but bad contracts to offer in return. I don't see it happening. I think Portland and New Orleans have the best shot at landing Carter.


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    Jay (Mpls, MN): If New Jersey trades Jason Kidd, when does it happen?

    Chad Ford: As soon as Kidd proves that he's healthy and that he is going to stay that way, I anticipate that a trade will happen sometime in early January, once Kidd has a few weeks to get his legs underneath him.


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    nick las vegas, nv: Who are really in the best shape to land J-kidd through a trade?

    Chad Ford: I think the Timberwolves and the Mavericks have the most to offer the Nets in return. I also believe that the Warriors could put together an enticing package for Kidd. The Nuggets are the dark horse, but they'd have to gut their team to get him.


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    Chip (Alexandria, VA): How good are the Wizards and will they make the playoffs? I think last night was a good test for them, and they hung with the Nuggets. How much will Kwame Brown need to contribute in order for them to be successful? Thanks Chad!

    Chad Ford: The Wizards look like a playoff team to me, but I'm not sure what that means in the east. They've beat the teams they should beat, but haven't beaten anyone good. Kwame is the X factor. If he starts playing better, the Wizards could be very tough.


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    Chris (Los Angeles): What's the inside scoop on whether the arbitrator will rule to reduce the Pacer suspensions and whether the NBA will accept that, if so? Thanks.

    Chad Ford: I think that the arbitrator will rule today that he has jurisdiction to hear the case and I think he will reduce the suspensions for all of the players involved. Of course, the league will appeal this in federal court, and I think they have a good case. It may be weeks before we actually know how this is all going to turn out.



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    Chad (Madison, WI): Hey Chad, please show me some love, since we have the last name. The Suns and Sonics are superb, but in the end come March, I still think it comes down to the Wolves and the Spurs? Could you back me up on this?

    Chad Ford: I agree. The Spurs have the right balance of offense and defense and a superstar in Tim Duncan. The TWolves have one of the best starting fives in the league. I think their experience will help them rise to the top ... but don't count out the Suns. I think they are going to continue to route teams.


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    Carlos / São Paulo: Hi Chad, How do you see the late play of Tyson Chandler??? I'd trade Curry instead of him...

    Chad Ford: He's looked great. He has the potential to be one of the best rebounders in the game, as long as he stays healthy. I agree that the Bulls should trade Curry first, but I also think that it might be wise to move Chandler now while his trade value is so high. The Bulls need to do something to get rid of the curse there and moving Curry and Chandler seem like the only viable options.


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    Joe (Davis, Ca): Chad, you have been talking a lot about trades involving the Warrior's small forwards, but you never said which you think they should keep. So who do take in your pick up game? Dunleavy or Pietrus?

    Chad Ford: I've been saying for two years that Mike DUnleavy was Chris Mullin's favorite player on the Warriors. But, my sources are telling me that Mullin is looking to trade Dunleavy in an effort to free up more time for Mickael Pietrus. Pietrus is a better defender and has just as much upside on offense.


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    Mike V (Concord,CA): With the race for ROY being close between Okafor and Howard, would you give it to Okafor based on the teammates he has around him?

    Chad Ford: Okafor is better right now. Both players have shown a lot of talent rebounding and blocking shots. But surprisingly, Okafor has been much better offensively. I think both players are going to be All-Stars down the road.


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    Collin (Franklin, MA): Chad, what's up with Pierce? Is it possible we see him moved out of Celtics green?

    Chad Ford: I don't think so. He's been unhappy, but his agent told me yesterday that he's unhappy with the way the team is playing, not the team itself. Pierce wants to stay in Boston and I'm told the Celtics don't want to trade him.


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    Michael Overman (Orlando, FL): Do the Orlando Magic have a chance at making a difference in the playoffs?

    Chad Ford: Yes, I think that the Pistons and Pacers are still the two best teams in the east, but after that, I think that the Magic and Heat are right there. The Heat have an incredible starting five and a deep bench. It wouldn't surprise me if they went all the way to the eastern conference finals.


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    kit -mpls: After watching last nite beating by the twolves, How good is Eddie Griffen? And when will he be in the starting line up? Seems to me, Eddie excels most when playing with KG.

    Chad Ford: Eddie Griffen has always had the potential to be a superstar. Many scouts believed that he should have been the No. 1 pick in the 2001 draft. The question with Eddie has always been his head. He seems to have gotten his life under control and now, is blossoming as a player. If he keeps it up, the Wolves could be the team to beat in the west. He's that good.

    Chad Ford: Thanks everybody. Talk to you again next week!

    The ShowGirl: Thanks Chad! Up next is Mel Kiper Jr. Who will be joining us at 1 ET. Hang tight.

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      Re: Another ESPN request

      Teammates unhappy with Bryant regime
      By Chad Ford
      ESPN Insider
      Chad Ford’s Chat Wrap with SportsNation on Thursday
      What were the Lakers thinking this summer when they let Kobe Bryant dictate whom the team acquired in the offseason?
      Everyone knows they were desperate to re-sign Bryant, but once you give up that type of power to a player, he isn’t giving it back.
      Since making his free agent power play this summer, Kobe already has helped exile Shaquille O’Neal , Gary Payton and Derek Fisher. Kareem Rush was given away last week for two second-round picks.
      Tuesday, Bryant nailed the door shut on a Karl Malone return to the Lakers. In a radio interview, Bryant said he didn’t think Malone was coming back, then criticized the Mailman for leaving the team up in the air. “It’s not really fair to hold it over the guys’ heads that are here,” Bryant said.
      Thursday, December 9, 2004
      “The guys that we have here are working hard, practicing hard every day. It’s kind of tough for them to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if he’s going to come back and then everybody is going to disappear. “It’s really not fair for us to sit around and speculate how long this is going to go on. I mean, you can’t sit up here and speculate for the remainder of the season whether or not he is going to come back. I mean, that’s not fair to the guys that are working here.”
      Oh, the hypocrisy. Wasn’t it Bryant who held his impending free agency over the heads of the entire organization last year? Wasn’t everyone looking over
      their shoulders wondering if Bryant was going to bolt to the Clippers? Maybe Malone isn’t the player the Lakers need right now, but Bryant shouldn’t be the one making that decision or delivering the message. But that’s not the worst of it. What left Bryant’s mouth after that speaks volumes about whose team this really is. “They are here giving me 110 percent,” Bryant said of his teammates.

      Really? The Lakers are playing for Kobe now?
      That wasn’t a slip of the tongue. Two player agents who represent players on the Lakers and one league source told Insider that Bryant was ruling the Lakers with an iron fist, getting in players’ faces and acting as if he owned the team. According to one agent, Bryant even threatened to trade his client if he didn’t do things The Kobe Way.
      “I get the feeling that everyone there is pretty miserable,” one agent told Insider. “I know [my client] wants out, and he claims others do too. It’s hard Insider. “I know [my client] wants out, and he claims others do too. It’s hard enough to have a coach on you all the time, but then when a player is doing it, too, it’s just too much.”
      The Lakers need to be careful. Word is spreading quickly around the league that while Bryant is an awesome player, he’s a terrible teammate. When the Lakers finally have some cap room to go out and lure free agents, what top - tier player is going to want to play there?
      The Lakers responded to the whole Malone mess by stating that Bryant wasn’t “speaking on behalf of the Lakers management or organization.” Bryant has a $136 million contract that says otherwise.
      Where will the Mail be delivered next?
      Malone claims he’s close to 100 percent and wants to play again this season. Where might that be? A source close to Malone told Insider on Wednesday that the Spurs, Timberwolves and Heat are the three teams Malone has narrowed it down to.
      Is Vince off the block?
      An injury to Vince Carter ‘s Achilles might send his trade value into a freefall.
      Carter strained his left Achilles’ tendon Wednesday in the first minute of the second half in Toronto’s game against the Pistons.
      The injury highlights a growing concern among GMs that Carter isn’t healthy enough to justify a trade. Several teams sent advance scouts to watch Carter play the past week, and at least two teams were concerned enough about his health that their trade interest immediately waned. “He’s got some serious tendinitis going on right now,” one GM said. “Our scout came back and said that he’s not going to be able to play like the old Vince Carter, so what’s the point?”
      GM Rob Babcock was in no mood to talk about it after the game.
      “In a situation like this, we’re concerned about a player’s health,” Babcock told the Toronto Star after the
      “In a situation like this, we’re concerned about a player’s health,” Babcock told the Toronto Star after the
      game. “The last thing you think about is the trade stuff.”
      The Truth about Pierce?
      Paul Pierce is the latest star player to run into tough times with his team and his coach. Pierce has looked
      unhappy for weeks and lost it recently when head coach Doc Rivers pulled him out of a game.
      Gary Payton added a few logs to the fire on Wednesday when he criticized how Pierce plays the game.
      “He needs to make some changes, but it’s been like four years that he’s been taking those type of shots
      and stuff like that,” Payton said in the Boston Herald. “Now he has to understand that that’s got to go. He’s
      getting a little deeper into his career – he’s more than seven years deep – and those shots are not going to
      make it for you.
      “You can be the man here scoring 20 or 30 points, but you’re not going to win basketball games, you know what I’m saying? He’s going to learn. I think he’s going to have to learn the hard way. It’s going to take somebody like myself to keep talking to him, but he’ll get the picture. “I know he doesn’t feel good after these games. I know he doesn’t. So he’s going to look at it and he’s going to figure out what’s going on.” All of that negativity has spawned a number of trade rumors. However, don’t put too much stock in them.
      Celtics sources say they have no interest in trading Pierce – Payton will be long gone before Pierce is, they claim. And Pierce’s agent, Jeff Schwartz, told Insider on Wednesday that Pierce wants to stay in Boston. “He’s happy in Boston,” Schwartz said. “He wants to stay there. There is some frustration because Paul doesn’t like to lose, but he thinks things are starting to turn around in Boston.”
      Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

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      • #4
        Re: Another ESPN request

        Thanks.

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        • #5
          Re: Another ESPN request

          Hicks

          Nice to see you and your sister get along so well.
          Ever notice how friendly folks are at a shootin' range??.

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          • #6
            Re: Another ESPN request

            All of that Kobe and Vince stuff is really, quite funny

            Ahhh...I'm so happy I'll never have to see either of them in a Pacers uniform.

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            • #7
              Re: Another ESPN request

              This should not suprise anyone.

              Who else could ROYALLY **** off 4 Hall of Famers in the span of 12 months? If you can't be respectful of Shaq, Malone, Payton OR Jackson, how much respect are you going to give a guy like Chris Mihm?

              Kobe's quickly become one of the most selfish embarrassments to the team game of Basketball. He even rivals Wizards-era Jordan. Disgusting.

              Alot of talk is floating around this neck of the palm-tree woods about ditching the Lakers for the Clips. Cheaper tickets. No celebs. No Kobe. Not a bad idea at all.
              “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

              “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird

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              • #8
                Re: Another ESPN request

                Originally posted by indygeezer
                Hicks

                Nice to see you and your sister get along so well.

                Wait - the sister's in front, right?
                “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

                “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird

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                • #9
                  Re: Another ESPN request

                  Good to see that Stern can't protect Kobe's image anymore, now that so many players are bashing him. I totally agree with what A.I. said about Kobe

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                  • #10
                    Re: Another ESPN request

                    Originally posted by LAPacer
                    Good to see that Stern can't protect Kobe's image anymore, now that so many players are bashing him. I totally agree with what A.I. said about Kobe
                    Excuse me for being ignorant, but what did Iverson say about Kobe?

                    And should Iverson be one to talk?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Another ESPN request

                      Originally posted by Los Angeles

                      Wait - the sister's in front, right?
                      I said it in another thread.....that's not his sister.....its a whore.


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                      • #12
                        Re: Another ESPN request

                        Reduce those suspensions!!
                        Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Another ESPN request

                          Originally posted by Grant
                          I said it in another thread.....that's not his sister.....its a whore.




                          OUCH!
                          “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

                          “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird

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                          • #14
                            Re: Another ESPN request

                            It's an inside joke.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Another ESPN request

                              I guess I should explain. Hicks, in addition to being the founder of PD is also a fledgling actor.

                              He was in a short-lived TV series called Firefly in which he played the captain of a ship of smugglers (for lack of a better term). That's him in the pic. Another character on the show was a professional prostitute (that's her in the pic, too). A running joke was that he often called her a whore, but she preferred to be called a companion.

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