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    Default Would it have been smarter to lose today for the Colts?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Colts had lost, the winner of BAL/IND would have been guaranteed to get HOU.

    With the Colts winning, BAL/IND winner gets DEN.

    Against HOU, there would have been a fighting chance to go to the AFC Championship game. Against DEN, there is about 0 chance.

    So, wouldn't it have been smarter to rest the starters? (not to mention one of our OGs got a concussion).

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    Default Re: Would it have been smarter to lose today for the Colts?

    No way. And we have a puncher's chance against the Broncos if we somehow beat Baltimore. Peyton has a mediocre record coming off the bye.

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    Default Re: Would it have been smarter to lose today for the Colts?

    Broncos have certainly been hot and it will be very difficult for anyone to win there, but this 11 game winning streak has been against a bunch of cupcakes. By my count, only 2 of the 11 wins on this streak have been against playoff teams (Cincy and Baltimore). In fact, those are the only two playoff teams they beat all year. They lost to Atlanta, Houston, and New England. The Colts also have just two wins against playoff teams, but it will be three if the Vikings win this game against GB that's in progress.

    Yes, Manning is playing great. Yes, Denver is a tough environment for any visiting team with the fans and altitude. Yes, 11 straight wins is 11 straight wins and you cant control who is on the schedule. But they can be beat. If we made it far enough to play the Broncos, there would be a ton of pressure on Manning not to lose to the QB who took his job.

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    As far as I'm concerned, this season has already been a success. The Colts have been playing with house money since probably mid November.

    And finally, as Herm Edwards once said,

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    I'm not convinced we'll beat the Ravens, so this could all be moot. But I love how we played. This is way more important and sets a tone for the Pagano coaching system. Loved it.
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    You play whoever is in front of you if its meant to be your year it will happen.

    The playoffs you just need to be hot at the right time.

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    The 4-5 winner is not guaranteed to play anybody. The NFL reseeds after each round. If the 3 seed beats the 6, then the 4/5 winner plays the 1. If the 6 seed wins, then the 4-5 winner goes to play the 2 seed. So the Colts won't know who they would potentially face in the divisional round until after wildcard weekend.

    I agree that replacing Houston with New England as one of the two possibilities was probably a net loss for the Colts if they make it that far. I don't know if that loss is really enough to be worth resting starters over.

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    The 4-5 winner is not guaranteed to play anybody. The NFL reseeds after each round. If the 3 seed beats the 6, then the 4/5 winner plays the 1. If the 6 seed wins, then the 4-5 winner goes to play the 2 seed. So the Colts won't know who they would potentially face in the divisional round until after wildcard weekend.
    That's interesting to know. So, the 3/6 is what, CIN and HOU? Actually, CIN probably has a chance there, so in that case we would get NE instead on DEN, which is about a wash as a far as difficulty, and also a less-intriguing matchup.

    I think a lot of y'all misunderestimating DEN. They are absolutely nasty on both sides of the ball, and might get McGahee back. An injury to one of their WRs would be devastating, but otherwise I don't see anyone except for NE challenging them.

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    It is never smarter to lose.
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    It is never smarter to lose.
    I don't know that our #1 pick, franchise QB would agree with that.

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    I don't know that our #1 pick, franchise QB would agree with that.

    We weren't really out-smarting ourselves last year though. We just really sucked. Who's to say Luck would have even agreed to play for a team that had obviously tanked to get him? Would he waste years of his career on a team that didn't try to win 100% of the time? When you start planning to lose I think you bring on long-term damage greater than whatever short-term gain you were aiming for, IMO.
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    I think the confidence the colts gain from beating a high seeded team going in to the playoffs will help more than anything else.

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    That would be the old organizations way of thinking. This organization "signed up for 16 and was going to play 16".

    If the situation comes to it and the team is 14-0 I seriously doubt you will see Pagano & Grigson sit any starters and slow their roll into the playoffs. They will play to win.

    If they can get the personnel right I have a very good feeling about this group.

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    Yeah, but Houston at Houston is no cupcake game, we really struggled there just over two weeks ago.

    But like people have said it is better going into the playoffs hot, so I would rather grab the win and play week by week and see where we get than worry about 2 games from now.

    Go Colts....
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    Yeah, but Houston at Houston is no cupcake game, we really struggled there just over two weeks ago...
    I don't think so. It was 23-17 in the 4th and the Colts had the ball. That's a ballgame.

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    I don't think so. It was 23-17 in the 4th and the Colts had the ball. That's a ballgame.
    They had us on the ropes all game, we got back in it late in the 3rd and did nothing, even though the score was close at that point we were really in a game that we shouldn't have been, and Luck was getting beat up like he was the new kid at school.

    Houston is dangerous at home, and if they could do something in the red zone they would be up by 10 right now, and the pick 6 was stupid, but it is what it is and they did it.
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    .............., even though the score was close at that point we were really in a game that we shouldn't have been.........
    That's your opinion. The score simply says otherwise. The Colts were in a lot of games they shouldn't have been in this season if you want to use your logic and they won quite a few of those. One score game in the 4th is a ballgame no matter how you care to construe it.

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    No, I would rather go to Denver and see Luck vs Peyton than Luck vs Schaub for the third time. We can beat Houston on the road.
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    Default Re: Would it have been smarter to lose today for the Colts?

    I'd much rather the Colts face the Broncos. It would be huge ratings-wise and a good storyline. I'd love to see Peyton pick apart our defense and then possibly go on to face Brady and the Pats.


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    I'd much rather the Colts face the Broncos. It would be huge ratings-wise and a good storyline. I'd love to see Peyton pick apart our defense and then possibly go on to face Brady and the Pats.
    Why would you want to see Peyton pick apart our defense? If we lose to the Broncos, I'll be just as bummed as I would be if we lost to Patriots or any other team.

    If we are fortunate enough to advance to the next round and play Denver, then I hope Peyton has a horrible game.

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    I'd love to see Peyton pick apart our defense
    Sorry but what kind of logic is this?
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    I'd much rather the Colts face the Broncos. It would be huge ratings-wise and a good storyline. I'd love to see Peyton pick apart our defense and then possibly go on to face Brady and the Pats.
    And it would be a dream come true for Freeney and Mathis who have always wanted the opportunity to put Peyton on the ground.
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    After watching today's game and reading this post I don't think it would've made that much of a difference since Arians was in the hospital.

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