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    Default A statistical comparison of our beloved Indy point guards: (Conley, Hill and Teague)

    Mike Conley Jr

                                                                                                                   
    Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    2012-13 25 MEM NBA 24 24 34.3 4.8 10.7 .445 1.5 3.6 .407 2.8 3.5 .807 0.6 2.1 2.8 6.3 2.5 0.3 2.9 2.1 13.8
    Career NBA 382 353 32.3 4.5 10.2 .440 1.0 2.6 .382 2.0 2.6 .778 0.4 2.4 2.8 5.5 1.5 0.1 2.0 2.0 12.0


                                                                                                                         
    Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
    2012-13 25 MEM NBA 24 822 17.9 .564 .514 2.1 7.3 4.7 30.0 3.8 0.6 19.1 19.7 110 99 1.4 1.5 2.9 .167
    Career NBA 382 12326 15.0 .528 .488 1.4 9.0 5.2 26.6 2.5 0.4 15.1 18.7 108 108 14.3 11.1 25.5 .099


    George Hill

                                                                                                                  
    Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    2012-13 26 IND NBA 28 28 996 5.2 12.8 .408 1.7 4.8 .353 3.0 3.5 .856 0.6 4.0 4.6 5.4 1.0 0.5 1.8 1.8 15.2
    Career NBA 309 92 7964 5.0 11.2 .445 1.3 3.4 .372 3.2 3.9 .812 0.6 3.1 3.8 3.8 1.1 0.4 1.7 3.0 14.4


                                                                                                                       
    Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
    2012-13 26 IND NBA 28 996 16.8 .528 .475 1.8 11.9 7.0 26.6 1.4 1.0 11.2 20.6 111 101 1.9 1.5 3.4 .165
    Career NBA 309 7964 14.6 .557 .501 2.1 9.9 6.1 17.1 1.7 0.9 11.6 18.8 113 106 12.9 9.5 22.4 .135



    Jeff Teague

                                                                                                                   
    Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    2012-13 24 ATL NBA 25 25 31.2 5.2 11.6 .443 1.0 2.5 .381 1.6 1.9 .872 0.5 1.8 2.3 6.4 1.6 0.3 2.6 2.1 12.9
    Career NBA 232 101 20.0 2.9 6.4 .450 0.4 1.3 .342 1.3 1.6 .791 0.2 1.5 1.7 3.2 1.0 0.3 1.4 1.6 7.5


                                                                                                                      
    Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
    2012-13 24 ATL NBA 25 780 16.0 .518 .485 1.8 6.9 4.3 34.3 2.6 0.7 17.5 22.3 104 103 0.8 1.0 1.7 .107
    Career NBA 232 4645 14.8 .525 .483 1.2 8.5 4.9 25.9 2.6 1.3 15.9 19.9 104 104 4.0 6.0 10.0 .103


    It is crazy how close statistically Hill and Conley are! All three of these point guards are running playoff level teams. The teams are three, four and five seeds that correspond with their respective ages of 24, 25 and 26. (younger is better I guess? lol)

    Which would you take? Who's your favorite? Who's the best?

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    Default Re: A statistical comparison of our beloved Indy point guards: (Conley, Hill and Teague)

    Give me Conley, Hill, Marquis Teague and then Jeff


    Conley on defense is what separates him IMO. Plus I just like how he runs that Memphis team Hill isn't far behind though. Hill has been better than I though he would be this year. He passes my eye test which in the past he never really did at pg. He still isn't what I would want at pg but I like him now at pg. I wish we could play him at his natural position more but it is what it is.

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    I take Hill bc of his size, and ability to hit big shots. Conley is about 2 steps quicker, and has quick hands to get steals, but he can be taken advantage of by bigger points. Offensively they're bout a wash though I think Hill is a better scorer while Mike is a better passer. Truly a toss up between the two--based on your preference.

    Teague is a notch below those two, but still has good potential bc of his elite quickness. Very good in the open court.

    Marquis has more size than Jeff and I haven't seen enough of him to have a real opinion of him in the NBA yet

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    I'd keep Hill because of his defense and ability to move to SG
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    I love Hill's game, but I also love Conley's game. Conley's made massive improvements to reach the point where he is now. Efficient scoring, passes the ball, decent defense (though limited in size). Love Conley's game.

    As far as contributions though I bet they're a wash really. And I believe their contracts are about equal as well. (I think Conley costs 5 mil more over the life of the contract).

    I think it is neat Indy can say 3 of 16 playoff teams start a Indy point guard..

    Marquis has always excited but me, but I'm less impressed considering he gets no playing time on the Bulls without Rose. Why can't he get on the floor??
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    I rate them:

    1. Mike Conley
    2. George Hill
    3. Jeff Teague
    4. Marquis Teague (haven't really watched him much to know what he's all about on the court)

    And this comes from someone who's a huge Pacers AND Grizzlies fan, and watches all Pacers games and all Grizzlies games. I just think Conley is a tad bit better overall than George Hill.

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    Hill is the best overall player on that list, but Conley is the best point guard. Conley is a playmaker and pressures the ball well thanks to his quickness. Hill has a size and shooting combination that makes him a better all-around player, but I don't believe he's a true point guard
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    I'll take Hill for his leadership ability, and his clutch end of the game floater.

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    Off topic here but come playoff time it will be great having two guards that are very high volume rebounders especially with a defense that pushes down opponents FG %. Possesions are big come playoff time. Helps teams dominate lesser opponents and also stay in the game against better ones. Just need to get the turnovers under control by the post season.

    In my mind Hill is a great fit for this team at the point. Good ball security, good defender, good rebounder, scoring threat, can hit big shots. The guy can help you win in a lot of ways.

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    Hill is the best NBA point guard. Conley was the better college/high school guard.
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    I'm happy with Hill nothing to complain about, have I mention that I wanted him here long time ago?

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    I have been happy to have Hill, but I have spent a good deal of time on the Hill is not a true PG train. That may be true in some ideal or technical sense, but he's playing so well there so far this year that I am beginning to waiver. Either way, I'm still very content with him on our team. And we definitely kept the right guy for the starting PG gig.
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    I've always liked Hill as a player, but he has exceeded my expectations. When we traded for him, I thought he'd be a great combo guard backing up both guard spots.

    I wasn't sold on him being a full time PG. Now, at least to me, he's proven that he is a real PG, not just a combo guard. He keeps playing better and better. I fill very comfortable when Hill has the ball at the end of a games that he'll make the right decisions. That's what makes a good PG, IMO.
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    As a point guard, I will stick with the best player ever to come out of Lawrence North, without whom Oden would not have been as effective as he was while he still had knees. As an overall combo guard, thankfully we have Hill.

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