A risk that ends badly has as much or more upside than the downside. For instance trading an all star Dale Davis for a young Jermaine Oneal. We gave up an all star for a guy who won often injured in his early career, was averaging something like 5/5 in 10 minutes a game, and was a malcontent who demanded he be traded. If he remained the player who couldn't get off the bench in Portland or if his knees kept bothering him (although that came back eventually sadly) it would have been a risk that ended badly. Instead we gave up an all star and got an MVP candidate.
Letting Collison go for nothing has no upside, it isn't a risk. Giving up Kawhi for Hill was a risk, I agree there, but resigning your own players isn't a risk... they are your players.
Last edited by billbradley; 12-18-2012 at 05:53 PM.
If you look at the moves we made individually I think you are right vnzla. Collison + Jones for Mahinmi doesn't make very much sense because we had the capspace to sign Mahinmi outright. But when you look at all of the moves together it makes sense. They wanted Jones out so they could give basically the same contract to Green. They wanted Ian, but Dallas didn't particularly want Jones. But they did want Collison, so Dallas agreed to take Jones if they got Collison as well. The loss of Collison might hurt this year until we let him leave this offseason, but they knew they would be able to acquire Augustin.
You can disagree that Ian and Green weren't the best offseason targets, but they are the right age for our team. And Green as a third wing doesn't seem so bad if you always have one of George or Granger out there.
I want to thank this a million times.
Those who are saying the Pacers need to take more risks don't want them to take more risks; they want them to sign the players they think are better. It's a risk up until the point where it doesn't seem to be working. At that point, it is a bad decision. Which is what all of the Pacers moves have been deemed to be.
They certainly risked and parted with so many great assets to get 2 possible HOFers /green
I don't know how people can think that any team other than the Lakers would be able to do those deals.
I don't agree with your player evaluation, but your argument makes zero since. In your opinion, the players signed were riskier moves because "everyone and their mom" knew they weren't good players.
I remember people and their mothers saying the same thing about the Gasol trade, you can't have it both ways.
I guess someone should have told New York, New Jersey, Chicago, and Houston that. If this isn't captain hindsight I don't know what is. We had THE DECISION hour long special, but it was 100% for sure always going to happen.
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