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  • Stand pat and wait until Danny returns

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    Default What should the Pacers do at the upcoming trade deadline?

    I originally was going to post this within an already created thread, but the more I thought about it, the more I wanted to make as poll in order to see what other PD'ers thought.

    With Roy Hibbert and George Hill already locked up in long term contracts (for better or worse) and PG coming up for an extension next season, this trade deadline (and eventually this offseason) could very well shape the Pacers roster for the immediate future.

    With that said, I think the FO needs to make a decision on what we're going to do. Because as we stand now, we're either going to barely make the playoffs, and lose in the first round, or we're going to barely MISS the playoffs, have a mid level draft pick, and stand the chance of losing our most important player THIS season (David West) for nothing. At 33, he's going to rightfully want to win NOW.

    I know we're awaiting Danny's return. But I'm not so sure we can count on a player with what sounds like a somewhat serious knee injury to come in and help us be very competitive. I'm not saying that it can't happen, but at this point it's a "best case possible" scenario, so I feel its smart to plan for him to either not come back this year, or plan for him to come back but not be able to give us the consistent 18+ ppg that we need.

    With that said, we have to ask ourselves. Are we in "win-now" mode?

    If so then we need to look to move one or two of our cheap bench expiring contracts, package them with a draft pick, and try to pick up a decent bench player that can contribute for the rest of the season. A lot of non playoff teams are going to look to get under that luxury tax threshold, and draft picks are always valuable. I believe if we can add a consistent and capable player to our bench (preferably on the wing/at the point) then I think we could easily be a 5 seed. Considering Danny's injury, I would think that our season was fairly successful with a 4-5 seed.

    If we aren't in "win-now" mode, then I say we shut Danny down for the rest of the season, and look to move West for some younger players and a draft pick. Not a popular choice by any means, and he very well could WANT to return to this team next yr. BUT...there will be many contenders/playoff teams that could use a player like West. If we could somehow snag a few young players still on rookie deals, plus a draft pick, then it may be wise to call this season a loss, and try for a quick rebuild with younger players. If we were able to get a few young players, we may still be able to sneak into the playoffs as an 8 seed. The only difference would be that we'd have a two draft picks and a few new young players to supplement a returning Danny Granger. We could very well be right back on track NEXT season.

    I'm honestly torn on what I think we should do. I really like David West on this team, and I'd like to think that Danny coming back and moving Lance to the bench will push us to the 4/5 seed range. But I look at the overall talent level on this team, and compare it to other teams that are at, and around our level (PHI, DEN, UTA, etc) nd they seem to have some hope for the immediate future, be it young talent or cap space. We seemingly had both just a season ago, but one seemingly below average offseason, and one injury to Danny later, and we're back to being a .500 team.

    So what do YOU think is the best route for the Pacers moving forward?

    1. Look to move our draft pick in order to make a trade for a competent bench player?
    2. Look to move West for younger pieces/draft picks?
    3. Stand-pat, wait for Danny to come back.
    4. Other (with an explanation)

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    Default Re: What should the Pacers do at the upcoming trade deadline?

    I think we should trade Hibbert while his value is still decent. I never approved of us giving him that kind of money so I cringe at the thought of it eating our cap space for the next 5 years.

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    As long as we have the team of Walsh and Pritchard in charge I really don't want them to do anything unless gift lands in their laps. These are the guys that though the moves they made during the summer were an upgrade. Any more upgrading and we'll be out of the playoffs in in long term salary cap hell.
    I'd rather wait it out until this summer when I hope Walsh has retired.

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    Sorry buddy... I can't answer this poll yet... Because it really depends on how we look when that time comes for me...

    If we have the same or worse winning percentage and look lotto bound I trade west for younger talent and or picks...

    If we lead the central and have the 3rd seed or higher I stand pat and wait for Danny...

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    Losing David West would kill us this year. He's definitely our best player. I wouldn't mind seeing us going after a FA back up point guard. One guy I'd look at is Delonte West. I know he's had his fair share of off-court issues but he would be useful.

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    If the right trade can be done come the 15th, they should do it as if Danny will be back. With that said, I think it would be smart to be patient till mid January when most all players will be eligible for trade and perhaps we'll know where Danny is with his knee. He may play several games around that time. I have to think that if Danny gets back that things will turn around. Hibbert should have it easier with Danny out there and thus everyone else will too. If by trade deadline, things haven't changed then West has to be traded to a contender for a asset and pick. I'm not concerned with DJ, Hans and the other bench warmers as they prolly will only hurt us in a trade. Ian isn't going anywhere and Green isn't gonna get any return, only a worse contract more then likely.

    I guess, I have to say It's just to early to get to hasty with the roster, but the FO should be working the phones for deals and possible future deals.

    Just my first thought anyways.
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    Default Re: What should the Pacers do at the upcoming trade deadline?

    I agree with those that say it's too early to make any determinations. When I say wait till the deadline, I literally mean wait until late Jan, early/mid Feb before making any moves.

    My thing is I feel that these are decisions we're gonna have to make eventually. Maybe we'll improve enough by the time the deadline comes around, but given the fact we've played the second easiest schedule in the league thus far, I think it's a safer assumption to think we'll still be hovering around .500 by the time the deadline comes up as well.

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    I can't vote because I do not want to shop 1st round draft picks. Especially in a season in which we expect to have a worse than normal record. Just look at who the Colts got in a similar situation when Edge was injured, they got Dwight Freeney.

    Also if we do trade West it better be for good value. Not late picks, or average players with little to no potential.

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    I said shop West but that's obviously not going to happen. Even if we did that's not going to be some cure all. Teams that would want West are contenders, or at least think they are. Those teams aren't full of young potential studs waiting to get dealt.

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    We need to fix the bench, first and foremost.

    If we trade West, I'll probably lose any interest I had in the rest of the season.

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    If West were to get traded the offense would REALLY suck. Which maybe wouldn't be the worst thing honestly.

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    Default Re: What should the Pacers do at the upcoming trade deadline?

    Move heaven and earth to get any of JJ Reddick, Kyle Korver, Anthony Morrow those types because we severely lack a consistent scorer and any of these guys would be a huge bonus to the bench mob
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    Default Re: What should the Pacers do at the upcoming trade deadline?

    The first option in your poll is similar to the second one the only difference is the pick, the Pacers biggest expiring contract is West after that you have DJ and Hansbrough, I don't expect Tyler/DJ to give us anything of value back the Pacers only option is West.

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    I said shop West, but only if we KNOW he isn't coming back. Also if Danny is still out, then playoffs are not likely. Otherwise work on the bench.
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    I said shop West but that's obviously not going to happen. Even if we did that's not going to be some cure all. Teams that would want West are contenders, or at least think they are. Those teams aren't full of young potential studs waiting to get dealt.
    Some contenders have young pieces that could interests the Pacers, San Antonio could probably send Spliter+Leonard+pieces for West, OKC could do Lamb+ Maynor+pieces for him, Denver? maybe Boston?

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    Leonard, Blair would get my attention.
    If games are won and lost on a calculator and piece of paper, then why do we bother to play them?

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    trade deadline?

    Why wait?
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    Default Re: What should the Pacers do at the upcoming trade deadline?

    If the Pacers are barely hanging on to a playoff spot or a low playoff seeding, I think they really need to trade West.

    Try to get some young pieces.

    Please trade some expiring contracts...namely Tyler and DJ. Trade the 1st rounder too. Get a better backup pg. That should be priority #1. Followed by a guy that can get his own shot and can actually score.
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    I said shop West but that's obviously not going to happen. Even if we did that's not going to be some cure all. Teams that would want West are contenders, or at least think they are. Those teams aren't full of young potential studs waiting to get dealt.
    West to OKC for Lamb, Jackson, PJIII.

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    Some contenders have young pieces that could interests the Pacers, San Antonio could probably send Spliter+Leonard+pieces for West, OKC could do Lamb+ Maynor+pieces for him, Denver? maybe Boston?
    You beat me to it.
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    You beat me to it.
    Nets have some pieces too. Humphries + Brooks + Pick for West + Tyler
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    Default Re: What should the Pacers do at the upcoming trade deadline?

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    The first option in your poll is similar to the second one the only difference is the pick, the Pacers biggest expiring contract is West after that you have DJ and Hansbrough, I don't expect Tyler/DJ to give us anything of value back the Pacers only option is West.
    My first option was more trying to package our draft pick for an upgrade to the bench for a cure all THIS season, whereas trading David would be a move that would pretty much say this season is an L, lets plan for the immediate future

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    I still think that much of our success last season and this season is due to David West himself. Which makes it real hard to see him go. But at 32, and prior injuries. I just can't see us paying him what other teams would. 3 yrs/ 27 million would be my personal max.

    Like most have said already. There are deals out there. Just up to the Pacers to make the right decision. Whatever that is.
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    Too soon to say.

    If there's a good backup PG on the market, though, I'd probably be interested.
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    We have to shop West. His value is sky high, and he's not coming back.


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