Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA
Vogel: "We’re going to make a change for the SHORT term and give Ben an opportunity."
Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA
To Augustin's credit, he handled the demotion well. No pointing fingers at others
Kudos to Frank. He doesn't make adjustments fast enough to satisfy everyone but by god, he's not afraid to mix it up when something is clearly not working.
I don't have high hopes for little Hans in terms of overall performance, but I know he'll at least bring good energy. DJ seems like he is sleepwalking out there sometimes.
And if our bench was built for Hill to run point with them our front office is monumentally stupid, seeing as how we just overhauled the bench with the knowledge that Hill was going to be our starter. Not sure I buy that. Sometimes the pieces just don't fit right together.
"Freedom is nothing else but a chance to be better." - Albert Camus
"Appreciation is a wonderful thing. It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well." - Voltaire
Michael Pina, Red94: "There are so many different ways the Pacers can beat you. They have an All-Star scoring threat, imposing figures on the front line, steady point guard play, and most importantly, a defense that'll choke the life out of just about every offense that crosses its path."
Well, this is now one off-season move that can unequivocally be deemed to be a massive failure, barring a major change in the last four months of the season.
For what he's worth, he's a good player. We brought him in to be a reserve for the next few years. He brings an offensive game we've been looking for off the bench.
His defense isn't horrible. There's been plenty of times where he's all over the shooter. His speed and overall athleticism helps him. I would love to see him strip the ball away more from ball handlers. He has the potential to do that.
He's still improving. To me, he's like a rookie as he entered a new beginning in his career.
Last edited by Trophy; 12-10-2012 at 04:15 PM.
Like I said, I actually think he could stand to be a little more aggressive. But he seems like he doesn't wanna step on anyone's toes
"I had to take her down like Chris Brown."
All this talk about how Ben "sucks" or how he is not the answer is more unfounded than my "he could be the answer" talk. No one has even seen the guy step on the court yet in a meaningful NBA game surrounded by NBA quality talent. My could be talk is not for certain. This certainty that he sucks is what bothers me. I know I'm not the only who likes to root for the underdog. Why not just try to have a little faith in our team? He made the team for a reason, and this is the exact reason why. Augustin has been horrid minus maybe 1 or 2 games all year. If Tyler has been one of the worst NBA players over the course of the season, then I don't even know which camp to put DJ in. He has been much worse at his position.
haha Best offensive rebounder. It's easy to do that when you just get your own board off constant misses. Also, I say it every game, "it's not a basketball game till Tyler gets blocked". And he gets blocked virtually every game.
Tyler is terrible. He's only of value if he can hit that outside jumper and he's proven he can't do that. And Tyler's defense isn't good.
Plumlee please! At least Plumlee should be able to provide some defense, and he's supposed to be a good rebounder. Time to give the Jeff Foster clone a try.
Lance + Starting SG = Awesome
Now really free Lance!
This is true. Augustin has been worse. Of the 234 players in the NBA who have played enough minutes per game to statistically qualify by the NBA's standards, Augustin is ranked 233rd in eFG%. Hansbrough is 227th.
Being bad at what? Offense? I can't think of one other area of his game I would consider "bad." Sure not great by any means, but more than adequate for a 15 mpg back-up. He has had some great games this year. I think his biggest problem is consistency.
I do not agree at all that Tyler is a bad NBA basketball player. I would say he is an inconsistent one and his minutes have been decreasing ever since he was a key player in the playoff push that turned our franchise around in Vogel's first year. I would rather have Tyler starting next to a 25/10/2 all star center, than the current version of Hibbert playing next to West if I had to chose one or the other. Tyler would be fine if he was surrounded by talent. Instead we have surrounded him with Lou and Barbosa and Dahntay and Augustin and Ian and Green and Young. Our whole bench has been putrid for 2 years, to single out Tyler and call him the worst in the NBA when other bench players have been worse is unfair in my opinion.