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    What's that?
    Free agents from last season can be traded after that date, Augustin, Ian and Green can be traded.

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    You can knock the bench but George Hill hit 5 of 15 and Roy Hibbert only 3 of 10 so not only the bench shot lousy tonight. Our 22 mil players hit a combined 8 0f 25 32%'
    Yeah, George Hill was anti-clutch tonight, but that's going to happen from time to time.

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    Yeah but they spend a bunch of money to fix it are you telling that they have failed making it better?
    It still is better than last year. The only problem was Augustin today (and most nights).

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    George Hill should be heated at himself for that entire last possession he wasted time and was forced to heave up a contested 3.

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    Our bench scored 12 points. Our bench had 8 turnovers. Almost as much turnovers as points.
    Stop blaming the bench they are great just give them some time.

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    Free agents from last season can be traded after that date, Augustin, Ian and Green can be traded.
    That's wonderful but no one wants Dj Augustin or Gerald Green. No one.
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    George Hill should be heated at himself for that entire last possession he wasted time and was forced to heave up a contested 3.
    15 and 10... he's not the one who should be heated at himself on this team.
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    Stop blaming the bench they are great just give them some time.
    why do you keep acting like anyone is saying this?

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    Lets go start a riot. ****ing refs.
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    That's wonderful but no one wants Dj Augustin or Gerald Green. No one.
    You can certainly find teams that want Gerald Green.

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    Lance really hurt us by missing a foul shot. I'm a big Lance fan. He should definitely be in there instead of Young. But if he makes both free throws Hill is headed to the basket for the final fast break to tie the game. Instead he had to had back out to the perimeter for a desperation heave.
    To be fair to Lance, however, he did lead the team in +/- (and Young was the worst with -17). Vogel needs to stop yanking Lance so much. He clearly helps the team perform, and we lost a nice lead as soon as Lance was pulled for Sam Young. Those margins end up costing us at the end of games.
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    Frustrating loss, we just lost our focus at the end there. Holy hell Frank, PG was on fire from the arc, and just hit one to keep us in the game, i'd sure as heck rather lose on a miss by our young stud to tie the game than that disjointed mess, he can't assume taht Hill or whoever would execute perfectly in the heat of the moment in thaht kind of situation.

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    Hibbert is god awful on offense right now.

    Rotations are the worst ive ever seen. Hy would we EVER play a 2nd qtr with all of our starters on the bench. Its sickening.

    Lance on off the ball D has to be botto
    5 in the league for guards.

    DUNK THE BALL PAUL GEORGE.

    Our offense has to change when sam young comes in. No reason he needs to be running off screens like PG.

    Thank you David West.

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    OK so the positive note of the game was Paul George how about that guy? he even made a clutch 3 I'm liking what I see. 22, 6 and 6 for him today, not bad.

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    The bench performance was horrible, but it seemed to primarily come from Andre Miller murdering Augustine.
    But we had way too many turnovers and defensive lapses against a team like Denver, they are going to make you pay.
    Brewer seems to do this against us every time we play them, had a few good shots but mostly scored off cheap baskets when we weren't back on the break or the rotations broke down.

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    Frustrating loss, we just lost our focus at the end there. Holy hell Frank, PG was on fire from the arc, and just hit one to keep us in the game, i'd sure as heck rather lose on a miss by our young stud to tie the game than that disjointed mess, he can't assume taht Hill or whoever would execute perfectly in the heat of the moment in thaht kind of situation.
    I'm fine with Frank's decision. I like the idea of Hill being given the freedom to make something happen. However, I am extremely disappointed that Hill didn't have his thinking cap on. He blew it, really.

    Next time, Frank will probably call a time out.
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    The only play I thought should have definitely gone our way was Andre Millers flop travel. The Stephenson play was 50/50 and that was not a foul on the last play of the game.
    Lance's hand was pulled down and behind him causing him to fall over how is that not a foul, and YES Hill WAS fouled on his last shot.

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    When is Pritchard going to be held acountable? We have heard NOTHING from him... and he's the one that deserves the blame for in my opinion. The players he added just aren't that good. Vogel only has one bench to go to.
    What do you expect to happen? Simon to come out and publicly denounce him? Seriously, what is holding him accountable short of firing him?

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    why do you keep acting like anyone is saying this?
    People have been saying it forever repeating "just give our bench some time to adjust" or things like that, so yeah people are saying it.

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    You can certainly find teams that want Gerald Green.
    D league doesn't count.

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    Paul George the last 3

    26 ppg

    7.3 rpg

    4.3 apg

    54 percent from the field

    over a block and a steal per game.

    He's starting to show me something offensively. He took over in teh second half even though he was cold in the first. He keeps this up and coaches migth have to entertain theh idea of him as an all star reserve sometime in the near future.

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    What do you expect to happen? Simon to come out and publicly denounce him? Seriously, what is holding him accountable short of firing him?
    I suppose you are right. Just venting my extreme frustration. Fans tend to put the blame on Vogel, but vogel did not put together that D-league backcourt off the bench. If fans want to complain about someone-that's who it should be.
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    People have been saying it forever repeating "just give our bench some time to adjust" or things like that, so yeah people are saying it.
    People haven't said that since the first week of the season.

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    D league doesn't count.
    I'm sure the LA Defenders would love him back... they can't pay him what the Pacers are though.
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    OK so the positive note of the game was Paul George how about that guy? he even made a clutch 3 I'm liking what I see. 22, 6 and 6 for him today, not bad.
    Yeah. Paul won't be a scorer like this, but he's starting to develop into a triple-double threat. He's flirted with 10 assists throughout the season. They need to start putting him in the PnR from the wing. They need to run offense through him and let him finish instead of using him as a finisher.



    And DJ us just awful. He makes the whole unit drag. They've collectively played bad, but DJ is doing every one a disservice of being on the floor. I know Frank told Count that he doesn't see Lance as a 1, but I gotta think that's partly due to trying to keep confidence in DJ. At some point in time, you've got to start looking else where. You can't go a quarter of the season with this type of production and think it's gonna get much better. Let him learn from the bench and see if that helps, but he's not playing through this right now.

    And no timeout at the end, gotta make the right decision, people got to their spots.

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