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    Default 12/7/2012 Game Thread #20: Pacers Vs. Nuggets

    GIVE DENVER A KICK
    IN THE NUGGETS!



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    Game Time Start: 7:00 PM ET
    Where: The Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
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    Season Records: (W-L)
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    Home: 5-2
    West: 6-4
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    Away: 4-9
    East: 2-5
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    Projected Starting Lineup:
    HIBBERT
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    Projected Starting Lineup:
    KOUFOS
    FARIED
    GALLINARI
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    PACERS
    Danny Granger - left knee tendinosis (out)




    NUGGETS
    Wilson Chandler – Left Hip (out)
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    Eight Points, Nine Seconds Review:
    Jared Wade: Paul George’s Great Passing Against the Blazers

    I’ve mentioned a few times that last night’s win over the Portland Trailblazers might
    have been the best passing game I’ve seen Paul George ever have. Some
    video:


    The first three dishes shown are obviously excellent: the rise to shoot then dish to
    George Hill at the rim; the two-handed overhead bounce pass to a cutting Ian
    Mahinmi; the over-the-top entry to David West. Each led directly to an easy two
    points.

    The others are a little more subtle but also help illustrate his growth as a decision
    maker. Because that is often what is more important as a passer than anything. We
    oooh and aaahhh at the the highlight assists (like the one George threw to Mahinmi),
    but even if you’re Jason Kidd, those types of finishes are few and far between. What
    is more important is consistently making the right read and furthering the offense’s
    advantage over the defense.

    That’s what we see in the rest of the video. Some of George’s passes don’t even
    lead to made buckets. But they all show the decisiveness that he plays with at his
    best. It’s all instinctual. There is no dilly-dallying. He just sees a teammate who is
    in a position to exploit the opponent and delivers a quick, accurate pass that allows
    his teammate to get off a good shot.

    The second-to-last dish (at the 1:13 mark) is the best illustration of Paul’s growth as
    a creator.

    He starts the play on the weakside wing and makes a flex cut to the opposite block,
    where he receives an entry pass while being guarded by Nic Batum. He catches a
    little far out on the baseline...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s



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    Don’t bogart that ball, McGee - Video Scouting Report

    When JaVale McGee is on the court he uses a big chunk of Denver’s possessions.
    According to Basketball-Reference.com, among regular rotation players, he has the
    highest usage rate on the team at 23.9 percent. Despite this, he also has the third
    lowest assist rate at 3.6 percent. Kosta Koufos has the second lowest, 3.1 percent,
    and Kenneth Faried the lowest assist rate, 2.0 percent. Naturally, all three of the
    Nuggets’ main frontcourt players earn their keep around the rim, finishing plays and
    putting back offensive boards, the big difference between McGee and the other two
    is that he actually spends a significant amount of time with the ball in his hands.

    Compare his usage rate with that of Koufos, lowest among rotation players at 12.4
    percent, and Faried, third lowest at 18.6 percent. (A surprising side note here is that
    Andre Miller is second lowest with a 17.6 percent usage rate that’s very modest
    considering how much he handles the ball). In short, Kosta and Kenneth should be
    given a free pass for their low assist rates, because the vast majority of the time,
    when they get the ball, they’re right there at the rim, and the best thing to do is
    immediately put it in the basket.

    This is not always the case with JaVale, who handles the ball in the post much
    more than the other two. Examining the data from MySynergySports.com, we can
    see that in many ways the shot selection of all three players is fairly similar across
    the board. However, there are three play types which one player uses significantly
    more than the other two:


    Faried and Koufos take more shots off offensive rebounds and cuts, respectively,
    than their frontcourt counterparts. Both of these play types, of course, necessitate
    taking the ball to the rim. There is no place for passing there. McGee, however, has
    a higher percentage of post-ups than the other two, a play from which he has the
    option to pass or shoot.

    But pass he does not. This season McGee is averaging less than half an assist per
    game. More starkly put, in 13 games he has dished out a single lone assist in five
    different games, and zero assists in the remaining eight games. It’s also worth
    noting that three of his assists this season were made in transition, and just two
    made in the flow of an offensive set (one from the top of the key, and one from
    the low post). As a general rule, once JaVale gets the ball in position, he gets
    tunnel vision straight to the basket, and everything else on the court fades out of
    sight and out of mind.

    All of this might not be as great a problem if it weren’t for the fact that JaVale is
    scoring a measly 0.5 points per possession on post-ups. Compare that with Marc
    Gasol’s 1.09, Tim Duncan’s 0.99, or for that matter Andre Miller’s 1.05 PPP from
    the post, and it’s easy to see that McGee still has a long way to go in getting a
    handle on the moves he learned from Hakeem Olajuwon last summer and putting
    them to positive effect.

    In the meantime, as he finds his way through that process with the guidance of
    the coaching staff, he needs to improve his own and his team’s efficiency by
    making a concerted effort to dish it out more often from the post when the
    occasion calls for it. This would result in fewer wasted possessions, as probable
    missed shots got replaced by plays kept alive for more open, higher percentage
    shots.

    Perhaps just as importantly, if opposing defenses know that JaVale always shoots
    and never dishes to cutters or shooters, then they are not kept honest. They can
    collapse on McGee with double or even triple teams with no fear of getting punished
    for leaving the perimeter unguarded. He can potentially earn himself better shots by
    forcing defenses to respect his ability to find open shots for his teammates.

    What follows are breakdowns of the five clips in the video at the bottom of this post.
    (If you open the video up in Youtube, you can jump to any clip by clicking the times
    in the description). All we can do is hope that the Nuggets film crew is working
    closely with McGee to show him similar footage and stress the importance of the
    kinds of points we’re making here.


    Clip 1 – Missed running hook shot

    This is one of those cases where McGee is so determined to make his move to the
    basket that he completely fails to survey the court. The first time he gets the ball
    on this possession, he does the right thing and passes out of the hard double team.
    But the second time around, in his haste to take a shot, he doesn’t recognize that
    the defense has collapsed into the middle, and misses the opportunity to dish it out
    to either Jordan Hamilton or Andre Iguodala, both of whom are wide open. As a
    sidenote on this clip, Danilo Gallinari sets a very nice screen on Kevin Love to give
    JaVale room to operate. It would be great to see him set these kinds of hard
    screens more often on pick and rolls with the point guards.

    Clip 2 – Missed short range jump shot

    In this clip, Tiago Spillter does a good job of preventing JaVale from getting position,
    holding him to the side of the key where he gets the ball from Andre Miller. McGee
    makes a nice spin move to shake off Splitter, but similarly to clip 1, the defense has
    sunk into the paint. There are two help defenders lurking nearby ready to close in on
    JaVale, which they promptly do when he makes his move. affecting his shot and
    most likely causing the miss...CONTINUE READING AT ROUNDBALL MINING COMPANY



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    Default Re: 12/7/2012 Game Thread #20: Pacers Vs. Nuggets

    Really hoping Paul can show that he can remain consistent.

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    Tonight's game against the Nuggets and Sunday's game against the Thunder are going to be a real test of how good ( or bad ) our defense is. Both Teams are very solid Teams on the offensive end.
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    Tough stretch for Paul these past few days. Deng, Batum and Iggy, if he has another good game today he's probably the GOAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CableKC View Post
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    Tonight's game against the Nuggets and Sunday's game against the Thunder are going to be a real test of how good ( or bad ) our defense is. Both Teams are very solid Teams on the offensive end.
    Completely agree.

    Pacers will need to focus on boxing out on both ends or this team will kill the Pacers on the boards.

    I actually think Green should start tonight. I don't see Lance being able to guard Iggy or Gallanari.
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    Default Re: 12/7/2012 Game Thread #20: Pacers Vs. Nuggets

    Anyone else a little nervous about the great defense falling off once Danny's back and the offense still taking time to get close to fixed? Not because "oh Danny doesn't defend" or anything, just because it'll be different groups on the floor than there has been and chemistry'll be off.

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    Thumbs down to that guy boo.

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    Anyone else a little nervous about the great defense falling off once Danny's back and the offense still taking time to get close to fixed? Not because "oh Danny doesn't defend" or anything, just because it'll be different groups on the floor than there has been and chemistry'll be off.
    As long as Danny doesn't take plays off I think there won't be any issues.

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    Anyone else a little nervous about the great defense falling off once Danny's back and the offense still taking time to get close to fixed? Not because "oh Danny doesn't defend" or anything, just because it'll be different groups on the floor than there has been and chemistry'll be off.
    I think it might be best to bring him off the bench this year. It really just depends on how he plays when he comes back.

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    I think it might be best to bring him off the bench this year.
    Assuming he's 100% when he comes back, which is the point right?, this is crazy talk.

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    Assuming he's 100% when he comes back, which is the point right?, this is crazy talk.
    Being 100% healthy, doesn't mean you are in game shape or at tho top of your game. It also doesn't mean better chemistry. There is nothing wrong with using him like Ginobli.

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    I just noticed it but Roy's home/away splits are pretty nuts. Shooting 30%(!) at the Fieldhouse but 45% on the road.

    He's also shooting 61% from the line overall, which is really hurting his production.

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    This game will be a great test. The Nuggets are a strong offensive team but when it comes to defensive rankings they rank a bit below average (17-22 range). They seem bad at defending the 3 point shot (28th in opponent 3P %) so that's something that we can take advantage of.

    Overally, I think that we match better against the Western Conference teams because I believe that our D is the real deal. So, it will be a very interested test. It will either confirm my suspicions or make me search some more data about our D.

    In any case, it will probably be nail-bitter. Needless to say, I'll be extremely happy with a W

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    I just noticed it but Roy's home/away splits are pretty nuts. Shooting 30%(!) at the Fieldhouse but 45% on the road.

    He's also shooting 61% from the line overall, which is really hurting his production.
    He has been "shooting" better lately (3 games above 45% out of the last 5) which probably contribute, also his low point seems to have been when we had more home game than away.

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    I just noticed it but Roy's home/away splits are pretty nuts. Shooting 30%(!) at the Fieldhouse but 45% on the road.
    The answer to that riddle may be that he feels more pressure in front of the fans and arena where he's being paid tens of millions.
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    Default Re: 12/7/2012 Game Thread #20: Pacers Vs. Nuggets

    Larry Wilmore working the baseline.

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    Chris and Quinn, finally

    Defense againt offense.

    Go Pacers!

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    We've already given up more points to Greek players tonight than in the first 19 games combined.

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    Default Re: 12/7/2012 Game Thread #20: Pacers Vs. Nuggets

    West should be able to take advantage of Faried, he is not that good of a defender, now with that said Faried could make it hard on him too.

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    Solid start...
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    We're 12/54th of the way to a 54 point quarter. Not a jinx.

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    We've already given up more points to Greek players tonight than in the first 19 games combined.
    A good thing that I don't play in the NBA

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    Best 3m of the season

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    3 assists for PG already

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