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    I'm watching the Mavs vs. Philly game and some Jones is their starting PG, but I just saw Collison sitting on the bench in uniform.

    Is he benched?
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    I'm watching the Mavs vs. Philly game and some Jones is their starting PG, but I just saw Collison sitting on the bench in uniform.

    Is he benched?
    Yes. Sounds like his defense has been the problem.
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    Wouldn't be surprised, he's been pretty much the DC we all know too well after his initial hot start.

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    They're trying him out as a backup PG, which is arguably his most productive role.

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    and he's killin it... 8/5ast/4st already in 2nd qtr

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    @basketballtalk: Mavericks’ Carlisle frustrated enough with Collison to start Dominique Jones http://t.co/Vz7Xnuyf #PBT #NBA

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    Default Re: is Collison benched?

    shouldn't this post be in the former Pacers thread? Not sure how this is at all relevant to Pacer basketball
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    If he could accept being a backup, he'd be one of the best in the leauge

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    shouldn't this post be in the former Pacers thread? Not sure how this is at all relevant to Pacer basketball
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    shouldn't this post be in the former Pacers thread? Not sure how this is at all relevant to Pacer basketball
    While it is a Pacers centric board we also talk about all of the NBA here on the Digest.


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    While it is a Pacers centric board we also talk about all of the NBA here on the Digest.
    I understand, but there is a thread dedicated specifically to former Pacers and how they are doing. Threads like these clutter up the forum
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    I understand, but there is a thread dedicated specifically to former Pacers and how they are doing. Threads like these clutter up the forum
    I have been on boards where they relegated all talk of certain broad subjects to one single thread. Those boards quickly become boring, and dead as some topics do not get the proper attention they need because of being too strict about dedicated threads and forum clutter.

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    That Collison-Mahinmi trade sure doesn't look bad tonight.

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    Interesting to see how he responds to that. The protecting approach from Vogel didn't have much effect on him playing D.

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    Let it be noted that DC is better than DJ at sitting on the bench drinking gatorade...
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    lol, what happened to the large contingent that said the Pacers front office was stupid for keeping Hill over Collison, who said Collison's amazing play is exactly what Roy Hibbert needs to be successful, he was the missing piece that made our team run, etc? Didn't even take 15 games.

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    Default Re: is Collison benched?

    That trade will always look bad, we gave a solid backup PG away for a player we could have outright signed.

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    That trade will always look bad, we gave a solid backup PG away for a player we could have outright signed.
    This is a fair point, mathematically. Not sure if Mahinmi would have signed with us outright.

    But as a trade, we basically flipped bench small talent for bench big talent. I still have hope for DJ Augustin, especially in an even shorter rotation in the playoffs with Danny back.

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    And had to think of cap space in general. So you sign Ian and still end up trading DC so you can keep the salaries down, but you trade him for a player of Young's level. And Dallas also was asked to absorb DJones contract, so there was benefit to the Pacers with the move.

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    This is a fair point, mathematically. Not sure if Mahinmi would have signed with us outright.

    But as a trade, we basically flipped bench small talent for bench big talent. I still have hope for DJ Augustin, especially in an even shorter rotation in the playoffs with Danny back.
    Mahinmi would've signed with us outright, he said as much in an interview...somewhere. I can't remember where I read/heard it but he got asked about the trade and said something along the lines of "...well, I was going to Indiana anyway..." I can't for the life of me remember where I heard it so you'll just have to take my word for it, but he said it.

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    Mahinmi would've signed with us outright, he said as much in an interview...somewhere. I can't remember where I read/heard it but he got asked about the trade and said something along the lines of "...well, I was going to Indiana anyway..." I can't for the life of me remember where I heard it so you'll just have to take my word for it, but he said it.
    Yeah it was on an interview, there is a thread about it I think.

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    Yeah it was on an interview, there is a thread about it I think.
    Yes it was in the star interview I think. There is no way to call this a good trade. We gave them there starting or primary pg for nothing. DC is still playing far better then DJ this year. DJ has sucked 14 out of 15 games and Ian has sucked 13 out of 15. I don't forget the first 13 games that easily.

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    Some interesting stuff about the Mavs point guard sitch.

    THE FACTS II: After the game, Dallas coach Rick Carlisle announced the team was going to sign Derek Fisher Thursday.

    QUOTABLE: "We need help at the point guard position. It's challenging for us. I don't see (Fisher) as a cure-all, but he can help." -- Dallas coach Rick Carlisle.

    INJURY UPDATE: Carlisle said after the game he found out minutes before the start of the game that Darren Collison jammed a finger in Philadelphia Tuesday and could not play.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20121128/DALCHI/gameinfo.html

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    How do you find out minutes before game that your player was hurt in a game the night before?
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    Yes it was in the star interview I think. There is no way to call this a good trade. We gave them there starting or primary pg for nothing. DC is still playing far better then DJ this year.
    Which is why I believe it is highly likely DC asked for the trade. The trade just doesn't make sense any other way.

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