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    HORNETS
    Anthony Davis - stress reaction left ankle (doubtful)
    Eric Gordon - sore right knee (out)


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    Buon giorno, friends! I'm in an absolutely ecstatic mood this morning, because two of
    my absolute favorite NBA-related things happened this week. First, the Pacers broke
    yet another record by showing those rambunctious big market Canadian rapscallions
    that there actually is another facet to this wonderful game called "defense". But that
    wasn't even the biggest news this week (and honestly, with the sheer number of
    records the Pacers break, when is it?) -- there was also a blockbuster trade which
    shocked both the championship picture and our entire beloved league to its very core!

    To summarize the trade that fantasy GMs across Arkansas are still talking about in
    hushed whispers, the Bobcats shipped out legendary sharpshooter Matt Carroll for
    2003 NCAA champion Hakim Warrick. Yeah, I know. You've probably been completely
    over-exposed to all the various in-and-outs of the Hakim Warrick/Matt Carroll trade.
    Happens. But kindly lend me your ears for a second, as I've fired up ye olde Synergy
    Sports machine to help you understand it even better. In case you're unfamiliar with
    Synergy, it's some sort of computer-internet wizardry where you type in a player's
    name and it tells you all these fantastical things about numbers and "statistics" and
    liberal mumbo-jumbo like that. Now friends, I have to give you a disclaimer: math
    isn't exactly my strong suit. But you're going to have to bear with me here.

    The first thing that stood out to me is Warrick's career 49.4% shooting percentage --
    that means if he take 10 shots then there is a very good chance that he'll make at
    least 2 of them. Cowabunga! However, something else caught my eye: when taking
    the opposing defender to the rack off his patented bicycle kick slide-dribble spin move,
    Hakim Warrick scores a sizzling 2.7 points per possession! On the other hand, Matt
    Carroll is a very respectable 38.4% three point shooter over his career. But you need
    to unskew those numbers, compadres! Because that's his three pointer percentage,
    you need to multiply it by 3 to get his "true" shooting percentage, which comes out to
    a super rad 109.7% true shooting rate! WOW! And how can we forget about his
    defense? In Matt Carroll's career as a lockdown defender, opponents who suffer from
    fatal cardiomyopathy while taking a shot against Carroll have shot 0-50 against him,
    and rumor has it that at least five of them tragically passed away after being faced
    with Carroll's bruising defense back in his no-good hooligan high school days.

    In the end, it's a style change for both teams, but one of those rare win-win
    blockbusters that everyone can feel happy about. Phenomenal trade.




    At the Hive:
    Where the Commish was Needed Badly

    In what is a recurring theme in the "Gordon-less" era of the Hornets, the team couldn't
    close out their opponent or complete their comeback because they lacked thet proverbial
    "end of shot clock" player. We have that, in theory. Problem is, he's (hopefully) rehabbing
    his busted knees in LA.

    After Anthony Davis converted two and-1s on consecutive possessions (one of them an
    awkward floater), the Hornets were able to creep to within two. Sadly, it was right around
    this time that the Hornets needed Gordon. The offense sputtered, and the team needed
    someone who could easily break down the defense create good scoring opportunities for
    the team.

    Vasquez wasn't going to be that guy -- he usually needs 2-3 screens just to get to the free
    throw line extended. Even still, he has to time his motion so that the second screen hits
    the defender exactly right to free him. Mason and Aminu certainly weren't going to be
    those guys. Neither of those players has any discernible weapons in half court sets.

    Ryan Anderson has shown a propensity to drive well to the rim following a shot fake after
    a flash to the three point line. Sadly, this really isn't a dependable "end of the shot clock"
    play.

    In all honesty, Anthony Davis was our best bet at creating a shot 1-on-1. He could take
    either Udoh or Sanders on dribble drives off the high post.

    What we saw however was Vasquez struggling to find space to drive. He would find a
    slivervof space (trailed by a stalking Udoh) where he flipped a high arcing layup that
    looked more like a pass to a wide open Anderson below than a shot attempt. Anderson
    saved the day with a two handed push tip to cut the lead to 2 again. This was after Ellis
    hit a 22 foot two point jumper, a win for the defense -- it's a 22 foot two point jumper,
    it's early in the shot clock, Ellis was making 33% of his shots from that range for the
    season and has been historically around that percentage for his career, and he was up
    to that point in the game, 1-4 from that range.

    Of course, Ellis went on to make another contested fade-away to the left, one footed,
    swishing it right through the rim. It was as if Ellis had suddenly activated the "closer"
    signature style (in NBA 2K) where his 17-23 foot shot attribute was supposed to be 70
    but sky rocketed to 95.

    The Hornets would only score 3 more points -- Ryan Anderson's fadeaway cut the deficit
    to 2. More importantly, had Gordon been playing, we wouldn't have needed Anderson to
    create his own shot after the jumper from Ellis. Gordon could have answered right back.

    What can we pickup from this game?

    1.) Vasquez for all his ability to run an offense and to orchestrate a fastbreak cannot
    defend quick PGs. (Way to go Sherlock!). I think that was painfully obvious from the
    start, but it was made more apparent in the last 2 games. Russell Westbrook and
    Brandon Jennings were able to consistently get to the basket and wreak havoc.

    2.) Hornets will have a hard time playing against good 3 PT shooting teams. OKC and
    MIL rank highly in 3 PT% with OKC clocking in at 3rd with 41% and MIL at 13th with
    36.2%. Here is a breakdown of our last 8 opponents 3PT eFG% (rank), their average
    3PTA, their actual 3PTA against us and the game result.


    As you can see, in all 8 games, we forced our opponents to shoot more than their
    average amount of 3s. The point margin against teams that are above average in eFG?
    A whopping -9.5. Against teams that are below average? +3.25. Considering the fact
    that most (if not all) of the top tier teams - namely MIA, NYK, OKC, SAS, LAC, MEM and
    MIL - are all above average in 3 PT eFG, then I think this is a strategy that will make us
    lose a LOT of games against top tier teams, and it's pretty clear that this is not a
    strategy that should be in place when we decide to be contenders.

    3.) The Anderson/Davis tandem? It can work. I especially love the Vasquez/Anderson/
    Davis Screen-the-Screener action late in the 4th (especially if you replace Vasquez with
    Gordon). If I remember correctly, Anderson would get a down screen from Davis from
    the left baseline (facing the basket) and immediately set a screen for Vasquez. This play
    actually resulted in a quite a few scoring opportunities. It resulted in a good drive for
    Vasquez (ending in a wide open Anderson tipping the ball), it resulted in an and-1 basket
    for Davis at the baseline (after a screen), and it also ended with a 3 PT for Anderson. If
    Davis can bulk up without sacrificing precious agility, speed and leaping ability, hat duo
    will have more success than any other big man combination we have.

    4.) Anthony Davis is more polished offensively than defensively. I'll be completely honest
    - I'm underwhelmed by Davis' defensive contributions. He hasn't been the patrol man that
    I expected him to be. I expected our D with AD on the court to be stifling -- defenders
    track their assignments, they know where to go, and offensive players are funneled into
    the waiting embrace of Anthony Davis' pterodactyl arms. Sadly, this has not been the case.
    Anthony Davis has been more role player than leader on the defensive end. He's late on
    rotations, he gets caugh...CONTINUE READING AT AT THE HIVE



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    Default Re: 11/21/2012 Game Thread #13: Pacers Vs. Hornets

    I was really hoping for Wicker Man for the Minimally Relevant Video.

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    Default Re: 11/21/2012 Game Thread #13: Pacers Vs. Hornets

    Davis probably won't play with that ankle stress fracture.

    No Davis, no Gordon. It'll be so lame if the Pacers don't win big.
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    Default Re: 11/21/2012 Game Thread #13: Pacers Vs. Hornets

    No excuses for losing this game tonight
    Fire up that tank and drive it to the lottery then to the draft

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    The Hornets have garnered a lot of buzz this year, but if we lose to them at home, it's really going to sting.

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    Default Re: 11/21/2012 Game Thread #13: Pacers Vs. Hornets

    another "we can't lose to that lineup, can we?" game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneGranger33 View Post
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    The Hornets have garnered a lot of buzz this year, but if we lose to them at home, it's really going to sting.
    I'd be careful, LG33. PDers are likely to swarm if you drone on like that.

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    I was really hoping for Wicker Man for the Minimally Relevant Video.
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    Going to be out today and will miss the game live. Will definitely watch it over LP Broadband replay once I get home though!

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    Oops thought this was guess the score lol


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    Let's hope for a W and a nice performance

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    This will be my first game of the season. Kinda bummed I'll miss seeing Davis in person, but pumped nonetheless.

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    Kind of sucks I was too busy to go meet my guy Greivis Vasquez again

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    Default Re: 11/21/2012 Game Thread #13: Pacers Vs. Hornets

    This NO team is not that bad either they have some nice young pieces, Aminu is finally looking decent, Vasquez, Davis, Lopez, Rivers, Anderson, etc.

    Their offense is also pretty good, they run a lot of screens, they are fun to watch.

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    Hakeem Lite gonna miss this one with the bum ankle?

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    Everyone will see how awful austin rivers is he's like the new Jordan Crawford aka blackhole.
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    We must dominate and take advantage inside. Roy and DWest could be in for an encore tonight with Anthony Davis out.

    I expect us to crush these guys, but many unexpected misfortunes have occurred thus far so who knows?


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    Everyone will see how awful austin rivers is he's like the new Jordan Crawford aka blackhole.
    Which pretty much means he's going to go off on the Pacers.

    I do agree that Rivers just isn't very good.
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    West defending Ryan Anderson is probably going to be a problem

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    Everyone will see how awful austin rivers is he's like the new Jordan Crawford aka blackhole.
    Yeah just watch him taking the ball from Vasquez so he can jack up some shot, he is a buzz killer too.

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    Hold the ball guys
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    Too slow Roy... make your move faster.

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    Did anyone notice how Roy say back after that block?

    He sat there and did a little intimidation look before running down the court. I could be wrong, but I don't see Roy of past doing that. It seems like a silly thing to criticize, but Roy in the past was getting back on offense. Roy now seems comfortable not giving it 100%, pulling the old JO of trying for some of the game and not for others.

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    Default Re: 11/21/2012 Game Thread #13: Pacers Vs. Hornets

    I wanna take the leash of Stephenson for 1 game and see the result.

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