However, I don't disagree with what you say. It's true that David has a better mid range and Pau is a better passer.
The reason I disagree with you is because David West seems to operate so much better in the interior. He can shoot the mid range but he is much better in the post, imo.
I think that the Lakers need a player with 3 point range at the 4. Someone like Ryan Anderson.
I know they wanna run D'Antoni's system but it's shown it hadn't worked in the playoffs. They need to have the size to rebound but the athleticism to match the younger/smaller teams. If they could get a legit 3pt shooter to go along with a new post player, I think they'd be in good shape.
And yes I'm a laker fan as well
I think it's naive to consider fandom a choice... believe me I'd much rather not be a Pacers fan. I don't believe our ownership has what it takes to bring in the right GM and stand behind him financially and otherwise to demand the team always be striving toward championship quality. Who here wouldn't trade the Simons for Mark Cuban? Seriously, its not even a question.
Unfortunately when you've grown up as a lifelong die hard you don't really get to choose so easily. Sure, I can say out loud, I'm not a Pacers fan... I live next to Memphis, it'd be great if I could say alright, for now on, I'm a Grizzlies fan. That's just not really how it works, you can't just flip a switch and stop loving something. Sure, hopefully, if we continually get lied to and they continually show no effort to create a championship product, over time, I hope I can move on. Find a team worthy of my dedication, a team who continually tries to win it all through the use of strategic long term planning instead of self defeating short sighted fixes for each season. I'm just not there yet, and I bet that resonates with more than a few fans out there.
Well,close. I believe that vs la just operates from a different perspective. Many of us operate from a perspective of the glass being half-full or half-empty. And for us, that may actually change from one to the other, depending on the player involved, the day of the week, the alignment of the planets, or whatever.
For vznla, I'm pretty sure his starting point is with the glass 3/4 empty. He tends to be far more often critical than supportive when it comes to Pacers players.
Having expectations that the team should get better isn't the irrational part. Thinking the Simon lied to profit is the irrational part of it. Thinking that the team has to compete for a championship or the season was awful is irrational. The reason people are sports fans are for the rides. The lows and the mediocre makes the winning so much sweeter. You don't have to be happy with every mood but just stop *****ing after every move and predicting doom at the first sign of trouble.
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You've successfully understood nothing I've said. Total straw man argument, no one is suggesting we have to be competing for a championship every year, only that we are making moves in a consistent manner with a plan and goal of being championship contenders. Note: not a playoff team, not a tough second round out, a legitimate contender. We aren't that, and drafting Miles Plumlee will never move us toward that. Signing Roy Hibbert's of the world to max contracts will never move us toward that. Bidding up a moderately talented combo guard against ourselves will never move us toward that. We spent $100M+ this off season without addressing any of the weaknesses we had last season or giving us any potential for these weaknesses to be corrected in the near or long term future. These are blatantly bad moves without the sort of long term strategic thought required for a team already possessing huge strategic disadvantages (not having Lebron on its roster) just can't afford if they want to truly contend.
I don't need to predict doom, it's fully guaranteed knowledge. I will give anyone on this board 1000:1 odds that we don't win a title in the next 3 years. I'd sign the contract in blood and thank you for the free cash.
Do you hear that? That is the sound of wisdom.
What would Larry Bird do? Seriously, I keep wondering what Larry Bird would do. I personally believe the man was an interracial part of the team. There is a part of me that wonders if he was the "bad cop" to Frank Vogel's "good cop". There is something missing. Clearly, we can identify Danny Granger, and we may be able to debate about a player or players who are no longer on the roster. However, I think the person we are forgetting to measure the impact of is Larry Bird. How much influence did he have on the team?
You can add Shaq, Garnett and others to that list. The superstars always gravitate to the big markets. Even if some stay home, small markets rarely draw big time talent. DWest was an exception to some extent, but IMO he came to Indiana on a two year contract to rehab for the most part. Recall he always stressed how deep the team was early on...
Well this is pretty humorous.
Grown Man Ball
I don't want to find what I said in this.
I WAS right about Gerald Green. Everything else....I might have overreacted just a bit....
David "And One" West
"Freedom is nothing else but a chance to be better." - Albert Camus
"Appreciation is a wonderful thing. It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well." - Voltaire
Michael Pina, Red94: "There are so many different ways the Pacers can beat you. They have an All-Star scoring threat, imposing figures on the front line, steady point guard play, and most importantly, a defense that'll choke the life out of just about every offense that crosses its path."
"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."
----------------- Reggie Miller
I'm sooo glad that both Roy Hibbert and Paul George made me look like a dumb *** lol
David "And One" West