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    the fragile, sensitive Roy is an excuse. If it is somehow true, than how could our management spend so much money on an unstable individual? What happened is Roy didn't put in the work in the off-season. He didn't take basketball seriously. Being the highest paid player on our team, he was supposed to be our "de facto" leader. With Danny being out, who is actually a leader, Roy has failed in leading his team

    I am not making excuses for Roy. I am explaining reasons for his terrible play and poor demeanor.

    Some people are able to shake off negativity and bad times more easily than others.

    It would appear, at least on the basketball court, that Roy is not one of those people.

    I pray that he is able to begin fighting against that label.
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    I don't understand why people keep hating on Mahinmi.

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    I don't understand why people keep hating on Mahinmi.
    He's terrible he cant catch the ball to save his life sure he has a nice pretty jump shot but give me Lou over Mahinmi all day.
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    I don't understand why people keep hating on Mahinmi.
    Me either. He's a backup big with good size, rebounding, and mid range j. He has stone hands but he's not hurting us at all. I'd start him, play Plumlee and bench Roy to send a message

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    I don't understand why people keep hating on Mahinmi.
    He has actually played some solid minutes for us so far.

    I am happy to have him here.

    I do wish he would take care of the ball a bit better, that's my one criticism at this point.
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    I don't understand why people keep hating on Mahinmi.
    OK. I was a little unfair. Still think Plumlee will pan out to be a better player.

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    West for Monta makes so much sense, too bad the Bucks won't do it.

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    DJ Augustine may be in the D-League next season for real...
    i believe you.
    i would say he is a useless player however, that may be too generous. he plays like a negative factor for us.
    the bright side of his contract is that he is only 1 year for a change rather than do the donnie long-term deal locking us into an unsavory deal where we are stuck/

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    I expected us to be 5-4 right now I thought I was doing a good job controlling my expectations.

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    He's terrible he cant catch the ball to save his life sure he has a nice pretty jump shot but give me Lou over Mahinmi all day.
    Wait.....Lou could catch the ball and score on the offensive end?
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    As far as Hill and West, more so West, go don't pay so much attention to their offense and ignore the defensive end.
    I know that West is extremely suspect at defense. And I also know that Hill is not having the best defensive season of his career. I'm not ignoring the defensive end. But at least they show some fire. Yes, they have their drawbacks but at least they do care.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVxC8SPrAI

    I cant tell you how much I miss these guys right now

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVxC8SPrAI

    I cant tell you how much I miss these guys right now
    Are you talking about the number 33 dude? Me too. The guy who actually set a real pick, the guy who was trying to free up Roy, the guy who had West's back almost immediately and was the guy letting Larry Sanders know as he walked off the court.

    Seriously the pick is what really sticks out.

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    I know it's generally accepted that Brian Shaw is as good or better of a head coaching candidate than Frank Vogel (most would say better, I think), but even if we fired Frank and made Brian HC, he's a believer in the triangle offense, which is something we partially run already, and it's just not the offensive system this team needs to get out of its funk. If anything, more triangle would probably make it worse.

    I wish we could kidnap Rick Adelman from Minnesota.

    But in any case, this team needs a commanding coach with an established offense that doesn't require these guys to make many read/react decisions.

    Hell, they probably need Rick Carlisle, to be honest.

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    I cant tell you how much I miss these guys right now
    107 pts with almost 4 minutes left? I don't even know what that feels like anymore.

    If Shaw tries to run the triangle here that wouldn't be very smart of him. There is no Jordan or Kobe type of player on the roster.

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    I cant tell you how much I miss these guys right now
    Hell maybe Vogel needs to just break out last years game film for the Mavs game on Friday.
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    So how soon before someone gets fired or traded? The expectations were so high for this team, it feels like it might happen sooner than later. Personally, I don't want to Frank go out like this. I'd rather they fire the front office, and look at some trades if they are going to make moves.

    Another thing I have been thinking on. Did Larry not want to do the moves that were made this off season and did he not have the control he wanted over the direction they were going? I know people say he wanted to be with his family or his back hurt or whatever. But he seemed like he wanted to stay at the start of the offseason. I remember him implying that they weren't going to blow all the cap space on Hibbert either. I wonder if there was some real conflict there with Larry and Herb, Donnie or Pritchard.

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    I don't want to go over everyone (which I could), but I counted nearly half of our 20 turnovers were directly attributed to Roy. Whether it was not looking for the ball on a PnR (Lance TO), running into Hill instead of screening Hill's man (Paul TO), or not having the awareness to look for the ball when he's wide open under the rim (West TO), they were the fault of Big Money ( good nickname btw). There were also several plays ruined because Roy simply can't catch the ball. He plays like he drinks acid laced Gatorade then dips his hands in a vat of butter before he enters a game. Somebody get the man some baby powder.

    Edit: One other play I want to mention is in the first half Roy hedged on PnR which was easily split by Jennings, and instead of following the play he basically just quit. He stood at the 3 point line sulking while Jennings missed the floater and his man tipped it in. Inexcusable effort from Big Money, the play stuck out because effort is one thing I never questioned from Roy before tonight.

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    I think the Pacers have actually gotten worse just this season... they have lost complete confidence in themselves...
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    More so than any other game Roy seemed zoned out tonight.

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    The Bucks announcers said something interesting tonight. I'm paraphrasing, but this is what they said:

    "Jim Boylen, Pacers assistant, was walking with us this evening and made a comment about how the Bucks have team chemistry. He said "that was us last year". Did he mean there's a chemistry problem this year?".

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    I don't want to sound like I'm picking on Roy because everyone except Tyler, Mahinmi, Lance, and the 3rd stringers disgusted me tonight.

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    The Bucks announcers said something interesting tonight. I'm paraphrasing, but this is what they said:

    "Jim Boylen, Pacers assistant, was walking with us this evening and made a comment about how the Bucks have team chemistry. He said "that was us last year". Did he mean there's a chemistry problem this year?".
    Chemistry problems are obvious right now.

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    Coach Burke was pissed off during the half time interview and mentioned something about staying together, and last night Shaw mentioned we didn't look like we enjoyed playing together. They're clearly worried about losing the team.

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    I miss Danny Granger.

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