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    Oh, he will succeed in being a life time back up center and the Pacers will know better than to draft him just like they didn't draft Alford or any of the other IU "stars".....
    Ummm I didn't say the pacers should draft him and he's a 4 not a 5

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    Ummm I didn't say the pacers should draft him and he's a 4 not a 5
    Zeller is a 5. All the way.

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    Well you don't win if you don't try...
    Most ironic post in this thread.


    Go ahead and don't try to win, tank away....and give me my freaking ticket money back. Not to mention the tons of studies and analysis that dispute the technique of tanking as being any more reliable than just smart team construction. Plenty of teams drafted ahead of the Pacers year after year and still finished behind them last season. But I guess we ignore the plan when it fails (all the time). #Wizards #Bobcats #Warriors #Kings #Bucks #Cavs #Clippers, and so on.

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    Cody better than Roy in everything except shot blocking. I think Cody projects as a PF
    i agree with this.
    i don't really see cody as a full-time 5. more of a hybrid pf/c
    he is not as good a defensive player as he could be at this time but, his quickness and ability around the hoop tells me he can make things happen.
    and as i saw some comparisons to him and hansbrough, tyler is about 6'8 and 1/2. cody is much taller- a legit 6'11 to 7 ft. that and the fact their styles of play are different tell me they are different players and those differences are in cody's favor. you can't teach height.
    is cody a #1 pick?
    i am not convinced he is but he is a 1# round lottery pick for certain. and as to whether he comes back for a junior run? just because the athletic scholarships are taken up doesn't mean he couldn't pay his own way and i think he could qualify on academics alone. they still have academic scholarships out there and all that to defer costs..
    does he come back? hell, i have no idea. but if he wants to- i wouldn't complain.
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    i agree with this.
    i don't really see cody as a full-time 5. more of a hybrid pf/c
    he is not as good a defensive player as he could be at this time but, his quickness and ability around the hoop tells me he can make things happen.
    and as i saw some comparisons to him and hansbrough, tyler is about 6'8 and 1/2. cody is much taller- a legit 6'11 to 7 ft. that and the fact their styles of play are different tell me they are different players and those differences are in cody's favor. you can't teach height.
    is cody a #1 pick?
    i am not convinced he is but he is a 1# lottery pick for certain. and as to whether he comes back for a junior run? just because the athletic scholarships are taken up doesn't mean he couldn't pay his own way and i think he could qualify on academics alone. they still have academic scholarships out there and all that to defer costs..
    does he come back? hell, i have no idea. but if he wants to- i wouldn't complain.
    as an IU fan, I sure hope he plays all 4 years. However, unless there is a serious injury, there is a 0% chance Cody comes back for his Junior year. I think its respectable that he even came back for his sophomore season.
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    Zeller is a 5. All the way.
    He probably does now that I think about it. The NBA has moved away from the traditional, big lumbering centers.
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    I do wonder what would happen if the pistons landed the 2nd pick and shabazz went #1.

    Im guessing they would try to trade it.

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    No, most NBA draft experts agree with me but go ahead and draft him number one. It will set your team back a decade....
    OlBlu said the same thing about a certain current Colts QB. Guess we have to draft Zeller now.

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    OlBlu said the same thing about a certain current Colts QB. Guess we have to draft Zeller now.
    Go ahead, you will regret it......

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    No, most NBA draft experts agree with me but go ahead and draft him number one. It will set your team back a decade....
    Every mock I've seen has Zeller going 1-3. The Pacers won't be in that spot regardless, but your choice to ignore the talent level of Luck and now Zellers is clearly based on a biased opinion, not anything that a majority of experts are saying.

    Here's a good article comparing Luck and Zeller:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...er-are-similar

    Now some 2013 mock drafts:
    http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

    http://espn.go.com/nba/draft

    http://walterfootball.com/nbadraft2013mock.php

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    Just FYI Shabazz will be reinstated by the NCAA and eligible for Tuesday's game against IU it looks like.
    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncb/s...einstated-ncaa

    "UCLA acknowledged amateurism violations occurred and asked the NCAA on Friday afternoon to reinstate Muhammad," the NCAA said in a statement. "The university required the student-athlete to miss 10 percent of the season (three games) and repay approximately $1,600 in impermissible benefits."NCAA student-athlete reinstatement guidelines say that when the value of benefits are greater than $1,000, the punishment is "withholding of 30 percent of eligibility for one season of competition and repayment." Thirty percent of a college basketball season is considered nine games.
    Muhammad received the suspension penalty normally associated with benefits ranging between $500 and $700, yet still has to repay "approximately $1,600."
    When asked by ESPN about the discrepancy, NCAA spokesperson Stacey Osbourn replied, "We don't have anything to share beyond the statement at this point."
    I mean good God they are breaking their own rules.
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    It's better than tanking for Tim Frazier
    hey now, Tim Frazier is a damn good player!

    but yeah i wouldn't tank for him, hell i don't think i'd spend a second round pick on him. Too small. Rather sign Talor Battle if we are looking for a PSU guard.

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    Just FYI Shabazz will be reinstated by the NCAA and eligible for Tuesday's game against IU it looks like.
    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncb/s...einstated-ncaa



    I mean good God they are breaking their own rules.
    This would be HILARIOUS if it weren't them screwing with kids' careers.

    I mean seriously, think about what that statement means. The rules are so dumb the people that create them can't even follow them. I wish the Big 6 conferences would just say screw you NCAA, don't need you (cuz they don't). We're gone.
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    This would be HILARIOUS if it weren't them screwing with kids' careers.

    I mean seriously, think about what that statement means. The rules are so dumb the people that create them can't even follow them. I wish the Big 6 conferences would just say screw you NCAA, don't need you (cuz they don't). We're gone.

    I obviously agree with you espeiclaly since Perea and Jurkin are having to sit out 9 games each for receiving money to get to America. That they were even able to provide documentation for. Come on NCAA don't bend the rules just cause he's the number 1 player in the country, but I agree the rules are so contradictory it is insane.

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    I obviously agree with you espeiclaly since Perea and Jurkin are having to sit out 9 games each for receiving money to get to America. That they were even able to provide documentation for. Come on NCAA don't bend the rules just cause he's the number 1 player in the country, but I agree the rules are so contradictory it is insane.
    it seems like there is no consistency at all with how the situations are handled.

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    Please lock this stupid thread.

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    Please lock this stupid thread.
    They apparently closed the Colts forum..... Just as well....

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    Regarding the initial topic...10 games in and we need to "Suck for Luck" to get Cody Zeller in the draft?

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    Mehmet Okur.

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    Mehmet Okur.
    Is that your Zeller comp?

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    Haha, people calling Zeller a superstar.

    This is Indiana, I suppose. Maybe DJ White is available?
    lol right? Tank to try to select Zeller with the #1 pick? Lol crazy, more like tank next season so we can get Andrew Wiggins. He is going to be legendary

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    lol right? Tank to try to select Zeller with the #1 pick? Lol crazy, more like tank next season so we can get Andrew Wiggins. He is going to be legendary
    Yeah but "Suck For Wiggins" doesn't have any flow to it

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    Tank for Taylor?

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