Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: How hands on was Bird with the team?

  1. #1
    International Counter bellisimo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Budapest, Hungary
    Age
    32
    Posts
    9,113

    Default How hands on was Bird with the team?

    It just seems like the team is lacking that certain leadership and instinct - both of which Bird has plenty of - was it Bird who the team looked up to last year and made the strides forward? What else is missing from this team that obviously from last year that we are just coming out so flat in every single game and losing the games mentally before the tip off?

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to bellisimo For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Member DEEman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Netherlands
    Age
    32
    Posts
    508

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Granger...
    Proud owner of 'Dutch Pacers'

  4. #3
    FREE LANCE MillerTime's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    4,828

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    we're missing a scorer....Granger was a guy who could put up 18 - 20 points any given night. I cant say that about our guys now - the closest we have is probably Hill and maybe West.

    I really wish we got Mayo. Ive always said he has the talent, but just needed a new scenario. Hes playing well in Dallas.
    "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.



  5. #4
    Member Pacergeek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    3,513

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    I believe that Larry's presence alone was enough to motivate our team. Dude commands serious respect
    David "And One" West

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Pacergeek For This Useful Post:


  7. #5
    Member ejwallace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    839
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    You also heard reports about Bird being at every practice, traveling with the team to all away games, calling the team out when he saw issues....Remember the whole "This team is soft" comment that lit a fire under some people's butt.....I think Larry being out of the front office is a big detriment to this team right now.....Oh yeah, and there is also that issue of Danny.....

  8. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to ejwallace For This Useful Post:


  9. #6
    .
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    52,583

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    In the motivation/fire/energy department, I see the losses of Larry, Danny, DC, Dahntay, Lou, and Jeff. That's a huge net loss in that department. They're all either completely gone or have a reduced presence. Danny in street clothes, Jeff merely hanging out with management.

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Hicks For This Useful Post:


  11. #7
    Member Sollozzo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    16,991

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    I don't know, but I do know that I'd trade Walsh for Bird in a heartbeat.

  12. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Sollozzo For This Useful Post:


  13. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    6,331

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sollozzo View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I don't know, but I do know that I'd trade Walsh for Bird in a heartbeat.
    I still think there is the possibility Walsh is just keeping the seat warm for one Larry Joe Bird.
    You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

  14. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Fishers, IN
    Posts
    436

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Whoever thought that this team could operate with less speed and a true point guard is responsible. Not certain if that points towards Bird, but someone obviously didn't see what these Pacers had last season.

  15. #10
    Administrator Unclebuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    32,822

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by bellisimo View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    It just seems like the team is lacking that certain leadership and instinct - both of which Bird has plenty of - was it Bird who the team looked up to last year and made the strides forward? What else is missing from this team that obviously from last year that we are just coming out so flat in every single game and losing the games mentally before the tip off?


    OK, if we assume Bird had a major impact or even a moderate impact last year then it is also fair to assume he had a moderate or major impact in prior years when we weren't nearly as good. I don;'t know if he has an impact or not, but you have to either say he does or he doesn't you can't just pick vcertain good years and say he had a big impact.

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to Unclebuck For This Useful Post:


  17. #11

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    I don't think bird just carelessly gives away Collison, barbosa, and Dahntay for essentially nothing.
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

  18. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Brown County, Indiana
    Posts
    3,761

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unclebuck View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    OK, if we assume Bird had a major impact or even a moderate impact last year then it is also fair to assume he had a moderate or major impact in prior years when we weren't nearly as good. I don;'t know if he has an impact or not, but you have to either say he does or he doesn't you can't just pick vcertain good years and say he had a big impact.
    Unless he felt that last year, with a "rookie" coach he needed to be closer to the team/staff than he felt during the JOB years.

  19. #13
    Member Sollozzo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    16,991

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unclebuck View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    OK, if we assume Bird had a major impact or even a moderate impact last year then it is also fair to assume he had a moderate or major impact in prior years when we weren't nearly as good. I don;'t know if he has an impact or not, but you have to either say he does or he doesn't you can't just pick vcertain good years and say he had a big impact.
    Our talent level was better last year than in previous years. Also, last year's team was pretty much all "Bird guys".

  20. #14

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    All that talk about bird possibly coming back in a year.... I don't see there being a chance now.
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

  21. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to rock747 For This Useful Post:


  22. #15
    Member Trophy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Posts
    8,556

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Considering how many years he was apart of this organization, I don't buy into it too much.

    These guys have simply played like they don't care.

  23. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Everywhere. I live in a big motorhome and I travel the entire country
    Age
    67
    Posts
    3,288
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by rock747 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    All that talk about bird possibly coming back in a year.... I don't see there being a chance now.
    He won't come back to the Pacers. I do think he will come back somewhere in a large market....

  24. #17

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    They play like they are entitled
    If games are won and lost on a calculator and piece of paper, then why do we bother to play them?

    @LetsTalkPacers

  25. #18
    bleed Blue & Gold PacersPride's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    3,245

    Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unclebuck View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    OK, if we assume Bird had a major impact or even a moderate impact last year then it is also fair to assume he had a moderate or major impact in prior years when we weren't nearly as good. I don;'t know if he has an impact or not, but you have to either say he does or he doesn't you can't just pick vcertain good years and say he had a big impact.
    c'mon man. Bird was handed a crappy hand. and he did what he set out to do with the 3 year plan. i dont want to get into the JOB thing because i see it both ways.

    bottom line:

    Bird rebuilt this Franchise. who knows if he offers Hibbert a MAX. or makes the moves that were made. i hope he returns and these moves are easily undone. I believe Hibbert will be a force but we need the right coaching. no offense too Vogel. We have a 60M investment in Hibbert. Time to get him the best coaching we can. Sloan is the obvious candidate.

    Who knows what Bird was told this previous offseason that may have changed his mind upon returning.

  26. #19
    bleed Blue & Gold PacersPride's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    3,245

    Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    i do remember times where Vogel said Bird would offer advice when asked. Bird did coach this team for a brief time. Perhaps Bird had an instrumental role with Vogel.

  27. #20
    Member PR07's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    4,963

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: How hands on was Bird with the team?

    I think this team has lost a bit of the Bird hard nosed mindset. However, more importantly, I think this team lost arguably its best player, and the guys this team has expected to fill the void, namely in its young guns Hibbert and George have not only not done that, they've regressed.

Similar Threads

  1. Bird's Team
    By ABADays in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 06-30-2008, 04:03 AM
  2. Pacers.com - Team Play Has Bird, Walsh Optimistic
    By 317Kim in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 02-22-2007, 11:54 PM
  3. Star}Bird expects to trade with 1 team
    By Will Galen in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: 01-07-2006, 09:25 PM
  4. Larry, Michael, Bird, to pick olympic team.
    By circlecitysportsfan in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 06-03-2005, 02:52 PM
  5. Larry Bird deserves the credit for this Pacers team?
    By naptownmenace in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-06-2004, 02:38 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •