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  • #46
    Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

    Hasn't D'Antoni been quoted as saying that he hates posting anyone up because it clogs up the lane? If so, that removes a huge advantage of every starter outside of Nash (even Artest has become pretty decent posting up). I'm not sure I see the fit in a team that is very advanced in age, with no depth to speak of, sprinting up and down the court all game long. All that said, they have too much talent to suck no matter who coaches the team, so it won't really matter until it gets to Finals time.

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    • #47
      Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

      http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1...iewMode=single
      by Sam Amick, USA TODAY Sports

      Published: 11/12/2012 06:14pm

      LOS ANGELES - Kurt Rambis was on the outside looking in on Monday afternoon, the former Laker standing in his suit at the edge of the practice facility parking lot and doing his day job as commentator for his old team's television network.

      As late as Sunday night, Rambis thought he would be in a different situation, one in which the longtime Lakers assistant would be on the inside again - making the news instead of covering it.

      All signs over the weekend had pointed to Phil Jackson coming out of retirement to coach the Lakers for a third time, and Rambis had been talking with his old friend for days about joining him as an assistant. Instead, the Lakers made the decision late Sunday night to hire Mike D'Antoni to replace the fired Mike Brown, and Rambis - along with the rest of the Laker Nation - was stunned.

      "They had told Phil that it was his job (in a Saturday interview), that he was their first choice, and they agreed to wait until Monday - today - to allow him time to digest whether or not he felt he was, in fact, the right coach to come and coach this team," Rambis told USA TODAY Sports. "And, in fact, his agent (Todd Musburger) flew into town - he's here from Chicago - to start negotiations. So Phil had made his mind up that he wanted to coach this team. Somewhere between Saturday afternoon, when Phil and I had a conversation, and Sunday night, the Laker organization made a complete 180-degree turn."

      Rambis' view is that someone convinced Lakers management that D'Antoni's run-and-gun, pick-and-roll heavy system was a better fit for the roster of star-studded talent than Jackson's triangle that had won 11 NBA titles -- five of those with L.A. There were no answers to be had at the Lakers facility, as general manager Mitch Kupchak nor Vice President Jim Buss were made available to the media.

      As for reports that Jackson had simply asked for too much in the the negotiations - be it travel privileges because of his health, complete control of the team's roster or even partial ownership of the team - Rambis emphatically denied that was the case.

      "No money was discussed," said Rambis, the former Minnesota Timberwolves head coach who was expected to rejoin Jim Cleamons on Jackson's staff. "All of these things that are out there about partial ownership, and lack of travel, and no practice time - all of that stuff is categorically false. None of those conversations ever happened. Ever. It was about whether or not he wanted to come and coach the team."

      Rambis, who was filing live reports from the facility for Time Warner on Monday, disagrees with the notion that Jackson would not have been the best fit for this group of future Hall of Famers.

      "If you're talking about having success and having this team and someone who knows how to guide a team to an NBA title, Phil is that guy," he said. "There's no second, third, fourth or fifth choice at this point in time. He's that guy. I don't know if Jim Buss knows one system from another in terms of how it fits with players, or what works best for players, or what's the difference between them. I don't know if he really understands that, so a lot of times decisions are made on gut feelings and with outside sources that have an influence on it."

      And as Rambis noted, anything short of a championship - or at least an NBA Finals appearance - might have a ripple effect on the future of free-agent-to-be Dwight Howard this summer.

      "The other thing that this organization has to keep in mind, is that if things don't work out really well here, and Dwight Howard's not happy, he's a free agent," Rambis said. "He could leave, and that would be disastrous for the imminent future of this team. I think you can see that there's a lot of pressure on this organization to win, and ultimately that's what you have to do. And Phil has been the coach in recent history who's had the most success here."
      Whatever grudge Jimmy Buss has against Phil, I like it!
      "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

      "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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      • #48
        Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

        If Phil's side of the story is true - that he wasn't asking for all those things that the media put out to justify choosing D'Antoni instead - then the Lakers really screwed this one up. Good job, Jim Buss.
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        • #49
          Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

          Good, the Lakers won't win the championship then this year!

          Sorry but D'Antoni doesn't play championship winning basketball. Not only did the knicks get better on defense once he was fired, they were better period. Look at what always happened to PHX in the playoffs. Those teams were stacked too. But they couldn't stack up to LA or SA because their style. So unless D'Antoni is making some changes to how he coaches, LA won't be winning anything.

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          • #50
            Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

            Originally posted by Sookie View Post
            Disagree completely.

            They both like offenses that are uptempo and "space the floor" but that's where the comparison ends. (And that was the least of the issues with Jimmy.)
            Well, have Steve Nash run the offense compared to Darren Collison and it will look completely different. JOB and D'Antoni are very similar coaches when it comes to X's and O's. Locker room is probably a different story as JOB seemed to be a bit of a nightmare in there.

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            • #51
              Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

              Originally posted by Tom White View Post
              Maybe. But there is a mile of difference between Anthony and Bryant.
              Yes they're not the same because Kobe is a worse fit. It is probably due to playing triangle, but Kobe doesn't really need a PG and most of the time he's carrying the ball for the Lakers. So it's just a matter of how Kobe will accept playing off-the-ball while Nash does the PG duties under D'Antoni.

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              • #52
                Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                I've already had my share of Lakers/Knicks/Heat/Clippers/Dwight Howard drama for the year. I wish they would just let it die, but literally the only basketball news being reported is Lakers news and I couldn't care less about the most expensive roster to ever exist.
                Time for a new sig.

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                • #53
                  Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                  Originally posted by ilive4sports View Post
                  Well, have Steve Nash run the offense compared to Darren Collison and it will look completely different. JOB and D'Antoni are very similar coaches when it comes to X's and O's. Locker room is probably a different story as JOB seemed to be a bit of a nightmare in there.
                  D'Antoni's system has a habit of making poor point guards look very good.

                  I think Kobe and Nash have reached the age of "I just want to win." And Kobe respects D'Antoni, so that's not going to be an issue.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                    Originally posted by Ransom View Post
                    I'm of te opinion that the Suns could have won had a few things broke their way, like not having Amare get suspended in playoffs because of Robert Horry and a ridiculous rule.
                    Or if their owner would have been willing to pay the luxury tax.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                      Step 1: Steve Nash
                      Step 2: Dwight Howard
                      Step 3: Pick'n'Roll
                      Step 4: ???
                      Step 5: Profit

                      Honestly, I get that Mike D isn't a defensive coach, but I really like this signing for them. Mike Brown is the most worthless head coach in the NBA, so it's a step up from that simple point of view. But I honestly think he will have that offense humming. These guys are intelligent players and obviously very talented, and given some time with D'Antoni, I think they'll definitely challenge for the title.
                      It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                        terrible hire when you have 2 great post players(3 when count Kobe) there is no better offense than the triangle. Again when you have 3 great post players there is no worse offense than the Mike D run and space the floor playing small ball offense. I just dont like this hire at all they will probably be begging Phil to return in a year.

                        and all the people saying the triangle wont Nash be Nash are wrong. The triangle is built for everyone to play every position. Im sure Phil would of let Nash run weak side PnR with Howard/Gasol all day in the regular season and even some in the post season.

                        The Lakers saying Mike was a better fit for the roster than Phil is beyond laughable.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                          Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
                          terrible hire when you have 2 great post players(3 when count Kobe) there is no better offense than the triangle. Again when you have 3 great post players there is no worse offense than the Mike D run and space the floor playing small ball offense. I just dont like this hire at all they will probably be begging Phil to return in a year.

                          and all the people saying the triangle wont Nash be Nash are wrong. The triangle is built for everyone to play every position. Im sure Phil would of let Nash run weak side PnR with Howard/Gasol all day in the regular season and even some in the post season.

                          The Lakers saying Mike was a better fit for the roster than Phil is beyond laughable.
                          Not sure I agree with your fundamental premise about fit.

                          But even if I did, you're assuming Phil would be locked in and committed to this team. Doesn't seem like he was willing to do that. D'Antoni will be much more active and involved.l

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                          • #58
                            Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                            Originally posted by spreedom View Post
                            Then again, if you do that, why not just get KFC?

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                            • #59
                              Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                              Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
                              terrible hire when you have 2 great post players(3 when count Kobe) there is no better offense than the triangle. Again when you have 3 great post players there is no worse offense than the Mike D run and space the floor playing small ball offense. I just dont like this hire at all they will probably be begging Phil to return in a year.

                              and all the people saying the triangle wont Nash be Nash are wrong. The triangle is built for everyone to play every position. Im sure Phil would of let Nash run weak side PnR with Howard/Gasol all day in the regular season and even some in the post season.

                              The Lakers saying Mike was a better fit for the roster than Phil is beyond laughable.
                              I agree with you. Mike's offense is meant for young men. He doesn't have that or great depth with the Lakers. That system just doesn't work when the playoffs come around and teams slow the game down a bit to play more half court..... Also, Nash was young when he last ran that offense. He isn't young any more.....

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                              • #60
                                Re: Lakers Hire D'Antoni

                                people also are forgetting just how good amare was during that era... pau today is nowhere near the level of mid-2000s amare in nearly all aspects of the game.

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