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    Maybe. But there is a mile of difference between Anthony and Bryant.
    Yes they're not the same because Kobe is a worse fit. It is probably due to playing triangle, but Kobe doesn't really need a PG and most of the time he's carrying the ball for the Lakers. So it's just a matter of how Kobe will accept playing off-the-ball while Nash does the PG duties under D'Antoni.

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    I've already had my share of Lakers/Knicks/Heat/Clippers/Dwight Howard drama for the year. I wish they would just let it die, but literally the only basketball news being reported is Lakers news and I couldn't care less about the most expensive roster to ever exist.

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    Well, have Steve Nash run the offense compared to Darren Collison and it will look completely different. JOB and D'Antoni are very similar coaches when it comes to X's and O's. Locker room is probably a different story as JOB seemed to be a bit of a nightmare in there.
    D'Antoni's system has a habit of making poor point guards look very good.

    I think Kobe and Nash have reached the age of "I just want to win." And Kobe respects D'Antoni, so that's not going to be an issue.

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    I'm of te opinion that the Suns could have won had a few things broke their way, like not having Amare get suspended in playoffs because of Robert Horry and a ridiculous rule.
    Or if their owner would have been willing to pay the luxury tax.

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    Step 1: Steve Nash
    Step 2: Dwight Howard
    Step 3: Pick'n'Roll
    Step 4: ???
    Step 5: Profit

    Honestly, I get that Mike D isn't a defensive coach, but I really like this signing for them. Mike Brown is the most worthless head coach in the NBA, so it's a step up from that simple point of view. But I honestly think he will have that offense humming. These guys are intelligent players and obviously very talented, and given some time with D'Antoni, I think they'll definitely challenge for the title.
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    terrible hire when you have 2 great post players(3 when count Kobe) there is no better offense than the triangle. Again when you have 3 great post players there is no worse offense than the Mike D run and space the floor playing small ball offense. I just dont like this hire at all they will probably be begging Phil to return in a year.

    and all the people saying the triangle wont Nash be Nash are wrong. The triangle is built for everyone to play every position. Im sure Phil would of let Nash run weak side PnR with Howard/Gasol all day in the regular season and even some in the post season.

    The Lakers saying Mike was a better fit for the roster than Phil is beyond laughable.

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    terrible hire when you have 2 great post players(3 when count Kobe) there is no better offense than the triangle. Again when you have 3 great post players there is no worse offense than the Mike D run and space the floor playing small ball offense. I just dont like this hire at all they will probably be begging Phil to return in a year.

    and all the people saying the triangle wont Nash be Nash are wrong. The triangle is built for everyone to play every position. Im sure Phil would of let Nash run weak side PnR with Howard/Gasol all day in the regular season and even some in the post season.

    The Lakers saying Mike was a better fit for the roster than Phil is beyond laughable.
    Not sure I agree with your fundamental premise about fit.

    But even if I did, you're assuming Phil would be locked in and committed to this team. Doesn't seem like he was willing to do that. D'Antoni will be much more active and involved.l

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    Then again, if you do that, why not just get KFC?


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    terrible hire when you have 2 great post players(3 when count Kobe) there is no better offense than the triangle. Again when you have 3 great post players there is no worse offense than the Mike D run and space the floor playing small ball offense. I just dont like this hire at all they will probably be begging Phil to return in a year.

    and all the people saying the triangle wont Nash be Nash are wrong. The triangle is built for everyone to play every position. Im sure Phil would of let Nash run weak side PnR with Howard/Gasol all day in the regular season and even some in the post season.

    The Lakers saying Mike was a better fit for the roster than Phil is beyond laughable.
    I agree with you. Mike's offense is meant for young men. He doesn't have that or great depth with the Lakers. That system just doesn't work when the playoffs come around and teams slow the game down a bit to play more half court..... Also, Nash was young when he last ran that offense. He isn't young any more.....

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    people also are forgetting just how good amare was during that era... pau today is nowhere near the level of mid-2000s amare in nearly all aspects of the game.

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    people also are forgetting just how good amare was during that era... pau today is nowhere near the level of mid-2000s amare in nearly all aspects of the game.
    But Pau could be mid-2000s era Boris Diaw.

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    But Pau could be mid-2000s era Boris Diaw.
    That's what I was thinking, a better version of Diaw.

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    Pau Gasol is now being downgraded to Boris Diaw level?

    Back in Amare's prime, he was averaging about 24pts 54fg% 8.5rebs per game. Pau just had his worst statistical season as a Laker, averaging 17pts 50ft% and 10rebs. Every year before that, he shot 53% or higher and has averaged about 19pts.

    The difference between 24pts on 54% shooting and 19pts on 53% shooting is volume of shots. Pau is a terrific low post player. Comparing him to Boris Diaw is an insult.

    And I'm not even a Pau fan. Too soft.

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    Pau has always been underrated. Before he came, the three Lakers post-Shaq years went like this:

    04-05: Didn't make playoffs
    05-06: Lost to Suns in first round
    06-07: Lost to Suns in first round

    Even though they had one of the greatest players ever in the prime of his career in Kobe, they were a joke of a team before Pau arrived. Then he arrives and all the sudden they make the Finals three times in a row. He transformed them from first round doormat to elite team. He's not perfect and he's certainly soft at times, but he's had a helluva career.

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    people also are forgetting just how good amare was during that era... pau today is nowhere near the level of mid-2000s amare in nearly all aspects of the game.
    Amare was a byproduct of the system. he was never a good enough 1st or 2nd option to get the Suns past other teams in the playoffs. He also played with a gifted passer (yet overrated in my book) in Steve Nash.

    Pau went to 3 straight finals by being the 2nd option to an offensive dominating 2G.

    The stats difference was all in the system which produced more FGA, fast break offense, etc.

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    And none of that even touches on the subject that Amare got to play with Steve Nash, in his prime, and benefited from the super uptempo style that D'Antoni brought.

    EDIT: Ace beat me to the punch.
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    It's too bad Granger is hurt because you may have been able to talk them into trading Pau for him now.
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    Speaking of Pau trades, Toronto should offer Bargnani + Calderon for Pau. Who says no?
    With that trade, and Ron Ron amnesty, they'd save somewhere between $50-70 mil next season. Bargnani should fit very well and Calderon would make that bench a bit more decent.

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    @HPbasketball: Wow, the Kobe quotes about Phil never running defensive drills are really eye-opening: http://t.co/lcx9KuSL

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