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    A white van? What the heck. The whole thing is really bizarre and if it was random it's honestly kind of scary if the person is still on the loose.

    This Fox59 article provides some really interesting info:

    http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-richm...5868305.column

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    So what, this was an insurance scam?

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    The whole thing is really bizarre and if it was random it's honestly kind of scary if the person is still on the loose.
    This wasn't a random act. You figure in conman boyfriend. Financial troubles, unable to sell the place, yet you go to a CASINO and board the cat for the weekend?

    I'm no Columbo, but if it walks like insurance fraud turned murder and it talks like insurance fraud turned murder....
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    This wasn't a random act. You figure in conman boyfriend. Financial troubles, unable to sell the place, yet you go to a CASINO and board the cat for the weekend?

    I'm no Columbo, but if it walks like insurance fraud turned murder and it talks like insurance fraud turned murder....
    I agree with you.

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    INDIANAPOLIS - At least four people may have been involved in a deadly home explosion that is now being investigated as a homicide, a source told RTV6.

    Investigators are looking for two men seen in a white van in the Richmond Hill subdivision hours before the Nov. 10 blast that killed two people and damaged dozens of home, the source told RTV6.


    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...on-source-says

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    Were I one of the four, I'd be looking to make a deal plenty quick before one of the others does.
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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-offic...5349864.column

    Gas intentionally released in house...2 people in custody.

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    Fox59 says IMPD is serving a warrant on a third person.....

    Aishah Hasnie ‏@aishahhasnie

    There might be some major breaking news on way on #indy #southside @explosion in next hour. We are trying to confirm. #StandBy
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    Neighbor of guy in custody says cops came looking for him 4 days ago. He hid, told her he was innocent. @FOX59 #indy #southside #explosion
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    This is horrible you would just hope it was an accident but to think this was intentional is just worse as hard as it is to believe.

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    the morning star says nobody is in custody and reports otherwise were false. They are thinking remote triggering device though.
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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    INDIANAPOLIS -

    The City of Indianapolis will order 33 homes to be demolished after the Nov. 10th explosion in the Richmond Hill subdivision.


    http://www.wthr.com/story/20158056/3...side-explosion

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    INDIANAPOLIS -

    The City of Indianapolis will order 33 homes to be demolished after the Nov. 10th explosion in the Richmond Hill subdivision.


    http://www.wthr.com/story/20158056/3...side-explosion
    Why so quickly? Isn't the investigation still on-going?

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    Question...... If the destruction of the targeted home was a criminal act, does that affect the insurance of the other homes affected by that act? Does that negate their coverage?

    I could see the the targeted home not being covered, but would the liablity still have to cover the other homes (hopefully)
    I am woefully unknowledable when it comes to insurance coverages.
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    Question...... If the destruction of the targeted home was a criminal act, does that affect the insurance of the other homes affected by that act? Does that negate their coverage?

    I could see the the targeted home not being covered, but would the liablity still have to cover the other homes (hopefully)
    I am woefully unknowledable when it comes to insurance coverages.
    I believe those homes would still be covered, assuming they had nothing to do with the criminal act that caused the destruction, BUT their insurance companies could come after the people who caused this... and possibly their own insurance.
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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    It begins:

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...home-explosion

    INDIANAPOLIS - Three people have been arrested in the explosion on Indianapolis' south side that killed two neighbors and damaged dozens of homes, as RTV6 first reported Friday morning.

    Monserrate Shirley and her boyfriend, Mark Leonard, who lived in the home, along with Leonard's brother, Robert Leonard, were arrested Friday on numerous charges, including murder and arson. John and Jennifer Longworth died in the blast.

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    The couple, who lived in the home at 8349 Fieldfare Way along with Shirley's 12-year-old daughter, was visiting a Lawrenceburg casino the night of Nov. 10 when the blast rocked their Richmond Hill subdivision, leveling five homes and damaging dozens more.

    All three were charged with two counts of murder, one count of conspiracy to commit arson, 33 counts of arson, a Class B felony and 12 counts of arson, a Class A felony.

    The death penalty will be under consideration in the case, sourced told RTV6.

    A probable cause affidavit will be released Friday that will indicate that the explosion sparked from fireplace tampering and a microwave oven, sources told RTV6. Additional details of how prosecutors think that sparked the explosion are expected to be released.

    Couple's Financial Troubles

    Authorities believe that the the explosion was concocted in a financial scheme.

    The Call 6 Investigators have uncovered details pointing to significant financial problems for the couple.

    Shirley filed bankruptcy in 2007 with her then husband, but that case was dismissed this June because they failed to make the required payments, documents show.

    According to court documents, the home had two mortgages -- one for more than $160,000 and a second for nearly $65,000.

    The 9-year-old home with four bedrooms and two and a half baths was put up for a short sale in March 2011, documents show.

    The home was initially listed for $188,900, but the price was dropped to $154,900 four months later and to $149,900 in January, before it was taken off the market.

    Interview After Explosion

    RTV6 interviewed Shirley and Mark Leonard in the aftermath of the explosion.

    "We consider ourselves pretty lucky right now, to be honest with you," he said. "It's miserable, but we're making do with what we've got."

    The couple, who spoke in the office of their attorney, said they had lost everything and had endured days of questioning with investigators.

    "It's a big devastation, and we're doing everything we can do help the police investigators, the fire department, the (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives)," Leonard said.

    "People are talking to me and asking me questions. I mean, I tell everyone the truth," Shirley said. "Everybody's after me, asking me questions. I've answered everything."

    Mark Leonard's Criminal Background

    The Call 6 Investigators have been looking into Leonard's background and found a long string of arrests and criminal convictions in several counties.

    In Johnson County, court documents show he's scheduled for trial Jan. 3 on a charge of driving with a suspended license, and again on Jan. 4 over accusations he failed to repay a $3,300 loan.

    In Marion County, Leonard's criminal convictions date back to the late 1980s and include stalking, intimidation, operating a vehicle while intoxicated, being a habitual substance offender and dealing marijuana.

    Leonard pleaded guilty to possession of marijuana in Lawrence County in 1998.

    The same year, in Hancock County, he took a deal on charges of disorderly conduct, resisting law enforcement and residential entry.
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    Suspects allegedly had items in home insured for $300K.
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    Curry says witnesses say suspects tried to blow up the house a week early.
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    Gas started mid to late afternoon.
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    Took 6-9 hours for gas to fill the house.
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    Currry says microwave was point of ignition in Richmond Hills explosion.
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    I just read that article too. I can't say I was surprised. When I had heard that even the family cat was in boarding during the explosion it sounded kinda fishy.

    What an awful tragedy. These guys tried to pull an insurance scam and ended up killing two of their neighbors and destroying almost the whole block of houses.

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    Hopefully justice is done to these worthless pieces of trash.

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    Death penalty.

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    "We on tape at a casino! We got us an alibi! They ain't never gonna suspect us!"

    I'll never forget seeing this mayhem from the sky a half hour or so after it happened. May these monsters never see the light of day again.

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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    Honestly, it's not just the two deaths. It's the amount of lives they changed in an instant with zero consideration or empathy. The world is better off without them. Put em down.

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    Honestly, it's not just the two deaths. It's the amount of lives they changed in an instant with zero consideration or empathy. The world is better off without them. Put em down.
    Right. And say this had instead just been a "minor" explosion that only took down their home without obliterating the rest of the neighborhood; did they really think they'd get away with it? Did they really think a thorough investigation wouldn't have been done with all of the insurance money at stake? Did they really think the insurance company would just buy their "my home blew up out of nowhere" story and hand them a big check without investigating? The level of stupidity and pure viciousness is unbelievable.

    Remember the interview this scum gave a month ago where she acted all sympathetic and surprised at what had happened? This woman is pure evil:

    She says watching the video on television is even too much to bear.

    "I'm just hurt like everybody else in the neighborhood. I'm devastated like everybody else," Shirley said.

    Shirley said words can't describe the pain she's feeling about the explosion that rocked her neighborhood Saturday night. "The whole thing is like a shock," she said.

    "I smelled a little bit in the laundry room and then I went inside and I didn't smell nothing," Shirley said, "I'm just a victim like everybody else, you know, I'm sorry we all lost everything."


    http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local...fter-explosion
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    Fry em. Lethal injection is too humane for these three monsters. Bring back ole Sparky!
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    While these people put themselves squarely into the criminal trash category I couldn't support the death penalty here. Life in prison, sure...
    While the outcome of the crime was horrendous I assume they had no intentions of killing anyone. The death penalty, if we have it at all, should be reserved for people who kill with intent.
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    While these people put themselves squarely into the criminal trash category I couldn't support the death penalty here. Life in prison, sure...
    While the outcome of the crime was horrendous I assume they had no intentions of killing anyone. The death penalty, if we have it at all, should be reserved for people who kill with intent.
    Assuming they're found guilty, Life in prison with no chance of parole, one small interior window from their cell, and the only thing visible in that window is a picture of the lives/ neighborhood they destroyed for a small insurance scam. The death penalty is too light for them. Let them live in a cell in isolation with the guilt they deserve.
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    Default Re: There was an explosion in a SouthSide Neighborhood last night

    This is kind of a stupid question, but I know nothing about this type of stuff.

    We just bought our first home, and we had to get insurance.

    I am assuming that is what this people were trying to scam. How does that work? Do insurance companies really just pay people off if the house burns down? Do they do intensive investigations?

    Do people pull scams like this a lot, and do they work?

    and how the hell do you board the family pet and not expect that to set off red flags?

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