The Pacers are not only missing Granger, the Pacers are missing DC, Barbosa,DJ and Lou, yes Lou, they are also missing Roy Hibbert.
Granger has no trade value? If anything it should be inflated at this point. His contract is far enough along that if anyone were to trade for him, it wouldn't screw them long term, and as far as the rest of the NBA is concerned apparently Indiana BLOWS without him, yet they're good enough to take a 2-1 lead on Miami with him. So no his trade value is not zero. that is absurd.
Also, some of you simply do not understand that some teams are looking for different things. For instance, if you don't think Danny is worth one of Utah's expiring big man contracts, especially when they have a log jam at those positions, you are high. They'd take it in a heartbeat. Utah is not keeping all of their bigs. They have young bigs they want on the court and it doesn't make sense for them to resign everyone.
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When George Hill is above 15% usage we won 73.5% of games. Below 15% usage we won 61.9%
Then tell him to get healthy and get his butt out on the court and win ballgames.
I get so tired of hearing 'blah-blah is towards the end of his career and he should be traded to a contender so he can win'. Nobody DESERVES to win.
It has absolutely nothing to do with his abilities, and everything to do with his availability.
It is either that or trade Paul George. They are both SFs and I doubt the Pacers organisation will invest big money in both of them at the same time.
The longer they wait, the lesser the return will be, so if they can get a very good player for Granger, I don't see why not.
It doesn't matter if the consensus wants to trade him or not, because he has zero trade value. No one really knows the severity of this injury until he comes back this year, if it all.
How much precedent is there for teams trading for a player with a serious knee injury?
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The Pacers only chance to trade him would be for a team that has a bad long term contract and is probably enticing for them to have Danny's two years left instead.
Edit: Here is the type of trade Pacers could probably do, maybe the other team is crazy enough to remove that bad contract:
Last edited by vnzla81; 11-13-2012 at 11:28 AM.
Can we at least wait until Granger is back and playing before we declare his career as a star over?
Didn't Bogut have knee problems that forced him to sit all of last season? He was traded while injured.
Not really sure about many others, although it would be very interesting.
I suppose he'd have value to a team thinking they could get him cheap and have a nice veteran presence waiting in the wings for the playoffs/next season (Like Dallas, or OKC), but even that is a bit far-fetched.
And, ultimately, that definitely makes your point. The Pacers won't be able to get back what Danny is worth to them, at least not until the offseason.
And count me in the group that thinks he'll come back just as good, if not better, than ever. The rest will do wonders, as long as he stays in shape. And he looked so good shooting the ball in his only appearance, he seemed to be back to the "old Danny" that was automatic from midrange, unlike last seasons Danny that struggled for 1/2 the season and the playoffs.
If this team can stay above water until he returns, they could be a major problem in the playoffs.
Last edited by Derek2k3; 11-13-2012 at 11:53 AM.
As far as Bynum is concerned, that would be a disaster for Philly, letting him walk. Giving up Iggy and Brand for nothing? I know they wanted Brands contract gone, but still, that would sting.
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As a note, I stand corrected. Thanks to boombaby1987.