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    listening to reports if Phil Jackson were for any reason to not return to coaching Brian Shaws name is already being mentioned among Magic and Stephen A Smith on espn.

    the lakers would have to give us a draft pick or something right? what if Phil Jackson wanted Shaw back. i dont get why Magic and espn are mentioning Shaw when he is under contract with the Pacers.

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    listening to reports if Phil Jackson were for any reason to not return to coaching Brian Shaws name is already being mentioned among Magic and Stephen A Smith on espn.

    the lakers would have to give us a draft pick or something right? what if Phil Jackson wanted Shaw back. i dont get why Magic and espn are mentioning Shaw when he is under contract with the Pacers.
    If Mr Simon wanted to be an A hole he could stop it. But anyone who stops a man from getting a promotion is wrong and I doubt the Pacers would stop it. If the Lakers ask for permission to speak with Shaw I would be disappointed if we didnt let them.

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    Default Re: can the laker poach Brian Shaw from us

    This doesn't answer question, but still related to topic:

    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

    The Lakers have not reached out to the Pacers about the possibility of hiring associate head coach Brian Shaw, league sources tell Y!

    Indiana considers Shaw an important asset, and wouldn't simply let him walk in-season to the Lakers, sources tell Y! So far, no contact

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    Default Re: can the laker poach Brian Shaw from us

    WoJo just tweeted the Pacers would be a dick and not let him walk mid season. They have nothing really to compensate us they have no draft picks for awhile so I cant really see a trade happen.

    I would be pissed if I was Shaw. It's the Pacers right because he is under contract but it's wrong IMO.

    Deadshot anyone under contract cant just leave however if they are neing ask to interview for a promotion teams normally don't get in the way of others careers. I mean this isn't Theo Epstien who left for a lateral position going from an assitant coach to HC is a huge job opportunity for Shaw and with a great team.
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    Yeah I understand I was just posting the tweet here because this thread dealt more with Shaw

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    Well...to be honest. If it was a "normal" job and you were the boss of a company, would you be so nice and let one of your most important employees walk because he can get a better position at one of your main competitors?
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    Default Re: can the laker poach Brian Shaw from us

    If it was a normal job and you were the boss you probably wouldn't have a choice.

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    Well...to be honest. If it was a "normal" job and you were the boss of a company, would you be so nice and let one of your most important employees walk because he can get a better position at one of your main competitors?
    Shaw is probablly making around 1m here. At a min he would make 3m as the HC in LA. Yes I would let the employee only if we couldn't offer him same pay and same position.

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    mr. simon,

    pay the man

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    Make them trade Nash for him.

    Or maybe a few draft picks?

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    If Mr Simon wanted to be an A hole he could stop it. But anyone who stops a man from getting a promotion is wrong and I doubt the Pacers would stop it. If the Lakers ask for permission to speak with Shaw I would be disappointed if we didnt let them.
    It's a completely different situation to have an assistant interview for a head coaching position in the offseason versus the middle of the season. Especially a team with the Pacers expectations and aspirations for this season (their current play notwithstanding). That's not how you do business in the NBA.

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    Not to mention, the Pacers are 5 games into the season, struggling out of the gate, learning they'll be without their leading scorer for at least 3 months, for a team looking to make noise this year. And you want the Pacers to let their lead assistant just walk? And how should Vogel and the front office fill the void left by Shaw when they're busy with practices, game planning, games, player personnel, etc?

    Again, this is a completely different scenario in the offseason when the team can prepare themselves if a coach is hired elsewhere. Letting him just walk mid season is a disservice to the rest of the staff, the players, and the fans.

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    It's a completely different situation to have an assistant interview for a head coaching position in the offseason versus the middle of the season. Especially a team with the Pacers expectations and aspirations for this season (their current play notwithstanding). That's not how you do business in the NBA.
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    They have an asset that I'd trade Shaw for. Why can't we trade an assistant coach for an assistant coach?
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    Default Re: can the laker poach Brian Shaw from us

    I think the Lakers will probably look for somebody proven anyway. A rookie head coach doesn't seem to go with their goals.

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    I think the Lakers will probably look for somebody proven anyway. A rookie head coach doesn't seem to go with their goals.
    I agree. Most likely Phil since he appears to be ready to get back into coaching. Which makes sense: Jordan/Pippen, Kobe/Shaq, Kobe/Pau, Kobe/Dwight/Nash/Pau. Ridiculous.

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    Not to mention, the Pacers are 5 games into the season, struggling out of the gate, learning they'll be without their leading scorer for at least 3 months, for a team looking to make noise this year. And you want the Pacers to let their lead assistant just walk? And how should Vogel and the front office fill the void left by Shaw when they're busy with practices, game planning, games, player personnel, etc?

    Again, this is a completely different scenario in the offseason when the team can prepare themselves if a coach is hired elsewhere. Letting him just walk mid season is a disservice to the rest of the staff, the players, and the fans.
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    They have an asset that I'd trade Shaw for. Why can't we trade an assistant coach for an assistant coach?
    would you stop beating around the bush with this. if its Person just say it.

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    would you stop beating around the bush with this. if its Person just say it.
    Barkley just gave him a great endorsement on NBATV for the Lakers job. Maybe we can trade Vogel and Shaw for Rifleman? They can throw in Bickerstaff if he's needed to make salaries match. Can't figure out how to make this work on RealGM.
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    Why're people automatically assuming Shaw would have any interest the way they treated him?

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    Why're people automatically assuming Shaw would have any interest the way they treated him?
    Being bitter versus turning down the most desirable coaching job in the game are two different animals....

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    Why're people automatically assuming Shaw would have any interest the way they treated him?
    What? They conducted a search, had three finalists, and hired the guy with the most HC experience? If Shaw's upset about that, he needs to grow some thicker skin.
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    Being bitter versus turning down the most desirable coaching job in the game are two different animals....
    It's not being bitter. It's having firsthand experience of the way their front office works and not liking it.

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    What? They conducted a search, had three finalists, and hired the guy with the most HC experience? If Shaw's upset about that, he needs to grow some thicker skin.
    Eh, they didn't show any loyalty to a guy that had stuck around and obviously expected to be next in line.

    I wouldn't blame him for having hard feelings...but not sure those feelings are strong enough to turn down Nash/Kobe/Pau/Dwight.

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    Eh, they didn't show any loyalty to a guy that had stuck around and obviously expected to be next in line.

    I wouldn't blame him for having hard feelings...but not sure those feelings are strong enough to turn down Nash/Kobe/Pau/Dwight.
    He wasn't entitled to be "next in line". He still hasn't been hired to be HC of any team, let alone one of the premier spots for all experienced, legit head coaches. Someone will give him a chance at HC, but until then he's an assistant acting like he's entitled to be a HC.
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    http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/11...s-de-facto-gm/

    ...Sources say there is a scenario in which both Jackson and Shaw would be hired, with Shaw as the head coach mentored by Jackson...
    Pfft. Yeah right.

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