Some of the starters aren’t stepping up, in fact a Roy has been stepping back, but it is very apparent that Frank Vogel does not trust the new and improved bench at all.
Honestly who can blame him really, once again when the bench came in to start the second the team went from a 2 point lead to a 10 point deficit and it took the starters all they could muster just to come back at the half.
By the second half Frank just wasn’t going to have it and thus by the end of the 4th we had nothing left, now mind you that is a poor excuse for only scoring 9 points in the entire quarter but it was part of it.
We once again were treated to some of the just dumbest passes I’ve ever seen by both Young (twice) and Green (once). I mean into traffic with defenders right there. Sure Paul, Lance & George had some bad passes but they just don’t compare to the passes these two lay out.
At least we didn’t just lay down like we did in San Antonio but frankly I wonder if this game would have ever gotten back into the Pacers favor without Hill actually hitting three point shots.
Which while I’m here I am going to just do it now.
26 effing three point shots? Over half of Paul George’s shots came from there, all of D.J. Augustin shots came from there. Over half of George Hills shots came from there but at least he hit more than he missed.
Besides missing and leading to a lot of long rebounds that can lead to fast breaks the other way why is this a problem? We got to the foul line 9 times, period. Now the refs. were calling this game loose so there might have been a lot more if we didn’t shoot so many three’s because Atlanta only got 12 up but they were jacking up a lot of 3’s as well.
David West tried and God knows that Josh Smith’s chest will probably be bruised tomorrow but West just got no help on the interior at all. We may have gained some length this summer but we certainly lost some strength as well.
I just don’t know what to say really. I mean we played well at times and so there is that as a positive to look at but once again we have lost another game and now are under .500% for the season. Yes I know the Lakers are in worse shape, but you know what I don’t care about them. They have a plethora of superstars that eventually will either play their way out of it or they can turn around and trade them for more superstars (or somehow they will turn Blake into Kyrie Irving via trade) We just don’t have those type of players and we do not have the ability to make any kind of trade for a superstar. So I have to worry about us.
I’m just going to do player grades because anything else I say will probably interpreted as being too negative.
David West: A
He did everything he could and he did it against a very athletic front line. Heck he even played good defense during this game and like I said he was putting the hurt on Smith by lowering the shoulder into his sternum and giving him the forearm shivers. He just didn’t have anybody to help him.
Sam Young: D
He was able to stay with Smith early on but Josh just jumped over him, no shame there btw as he does that to a lot of people. I would have been content giving him a C but again he had two of the dumbest passes into traffic I have ever seen & that is saying something. He may be the worst passing small forward I’ve ever seen.
Roy Hibbert: C-
Yip he is already in another one of his funks where he has lost confidence and now missing shots is making him not play the stellar defense he was last season. He is now missing hook shots within 5’ of the basket that last season would have been a guaranteed two. Not sure where the answer is going to come from but unless he turns it around we are going to be in for a long season. (I have a feeling that this is going to be the case)
Paul George: C
Nothing really bad but nothing really good either. Just disappointed because if ever there was a time to shine for him it is now and all he is doing for me is remind me that I miss Danny Granger something fierce.
George Hill: A
He doesn’t have the talent of a lot of the other star point guards in the NBA but he is a warrior and has no fear. If Paul George had ¼ of his drive and desire to be involved in the big play our record would be significantly different. Don’t get me wrong I don’t love him taking 7 three point shots in a game but at the very least he hit more than he missed and he played fairly good defense.
Gerald Green: C
Tonight he settled for the three point shot way too early and way too easily. He gets points for hitting the glass and blocking a couple of shots but he also threw one of the dumbest passes I’ve ever seen again tonight. I believe he may be the second worst passing small forward I’ve ever seen.
Lance Stephenson: B
He had some really boneheaded defensive lapses in the 4th quarter but he was also a very large part of why we built up that lead in the 3rd quarter. I know this is not going to make sense to anyone but me but the reason I like Lance in there with the starters is because like West and like Hill he has a certain swagger that he brings when he is on the floor. Don’t get me wrong that can burn us as often as it helps us but between Roy hiding from his shadow and Paul’s ever cool demeanor (I’m being polite here btw) I like him giving us an edge.
Tyler Hansbrough: B
Is it just because I had so low expectations for Tyler that I actually consider him improved from last season? I mean forget the shooting, that’s just never going to be there, but his defense and rebounding this season are light years ahead of where they were last season. Honestly I trust him on the floor more than I do Mahinmi.
D.J. Augustin: D-
Just useless.
Ian Mahinmi: D-
Thank you for making me look like an idiot in my pre season preview. How the hell did this guy go from being a player that looked like an absolute steal in pre-season to me now wondering how did they ever sucker us into giving away Collison for him. God I hope he picks this up because as it stands now he is not playing anymore a game than Lou was and we are now back to using West as the backup 5. If that stands we could have saved ourselves a lot of money and signed someone a lot cheaper.
Again it’s early and yes there was improvement but there really is a lot to be concerned about.
Honestly who can blame him really, once again when the bench came in to start the second the team went from a 2 point lead to a 10 point deficit and it took the starters all they could muster just to come back at the half.
By the second half Frank just wasn’t going to have it and thus by the end of the 4th we had nothing left, now mind you that is a poor excuse for only scoring 9 points in the entire quarter but it was part of it.
We once again were treated to some of the just dumbest passes I’ve ever seen by both Young (twice) and Green (once). I mean into traffic with defenders right there. Sure Paul, Lance & George had some bad passes but they just don’t compare to the passes these two lay out.
At least we didn’t just lay down like we did in San Antonio but frankly I wonder if this game would have ever gotten back into the Pacers favor without Hill actually hitting three point shots.
Which while I’m here I am going to just do it now.
26 effing three point shots? Over half of Paul George’s shots came from there, all of D.J. Augustin shots came from there. Over half of George Hills shots came from there but at least he hit more than he missed.
Besides missing and leading to a lot of long rebounds that can lead to fast breaks the other way why is this a problem? We got to the foul line 9 times, period. Now the refs. were calling this game loose so there might have been a lot more if we didn’t shoot so many three’s because Atlanta only got 12 up but they were jacking up a lot of 3’s as well.
David West tried and God knows that Josh Smith’s chest will probably be bruised tomorrow but West just got no help on the interior at all. We may have gained some length this summer but we certainly lost some strength as well.
I just don’t know what to say really. I mean we played well at times and so there is that as a positive to look at but once again we have lost another game and now are under .500% for the season. Yes I know the Lakers are in worse shape, but you know what I don’t care about them. They have a plethora of superstars that eventually will either play their way out of it or they can turn around and trade them for more superstars (or somehow they will turn Blake into Kyrie Irving via trade) We just don’t have those type of players and we do not have the ability to make any kind of trade for a superstar. So I have to worry about us.
I’m just going to do player grades because anything else I say will probably interpreted as being too negative.
David West: A
He did everything he could and he did it against a very athletic front line. Heck he even played good defense during this game and like I said he was putting the hurt on Smith by lowering the shoulder into his sternum and giving him the forearm shivers. He just didn’t have anybody to help him.
Sam Young: D
He was able to stay with Smith early on but Josh just jumped over him, no shame there btw as he does that to a lot of people. I would have been content giving him a C but again he had two of the dumbest passes into traffic I have ever seen & that is saying something. He may be the worst passing small forward I’ve ever seen.
Roy Hibbert: C-
Yip he is already in another one of his funks where he has lost confidence and now missing shots is making him not play the stellar defense he was last season. He is now missing hook shots within 5’ of the basket that last season would have been a guaranteed two. Not sure where the answer is going to come from but unless he turns it around we are going to be in for a long season. (I have a feeling that this is going to be the case)
Paul George: C
Nothing really bad but nothing really good either. Just disappointed because if ever there was a time to shine for him it is now and all he is doing for me is remind me that I miss Danny Granger something fierce.
George Hill: A
He doesn’t have the talent of a lot of the other star point guards in the NBA but he is a warrior and has no fear. If Paul George had ¼ of his drive and desire to be involved in the big play our record would be significantly different. Don’t get me wrong I don’t love him taking 7 three point shots in a game but at the very least he hit more than he missed and he played fairly good defense.
Gerald Green: C
Tonight he settled for the three point shot way too early and way too easily. He gets points for hitting the glass and blocking a couple of shots but he also threw one of the dumbest passes I’ve ever seen again tonight. I believe he may be the second worst passing small forward I’ve ever seen.
Lance Stephenson: B
He had some really boneheaded defensive lapses in the 4th quarter but he was also a very large part of why we built up that lead in the 3rd quarter. I know this is not going to make sense to anyone but me but the reason I like Lance in there with the starters is because like West and like Hill he has a certain swagger that he brings when he is on the floor. Don’t get me wrong that can burn us as often as it helps us but between Roy hiding from his shadow and Paul’s ever cool demeanor (I’m being polite here btw) I like him giving us an edge.
Tyler Hansbrough: B
Is it just because I had so low expectations for Tyler that I actually consider him improved from last season? I mean forget the shooting, that’s just never going to be there, but his defense and rebounding this season are light years ahead of where they were last season. Honestly I trust him on the floor more than I do Mahinmi.
D.J. Augustin: D-
Just useless.
Ian Mahinmi: D-
Thank you for making me look like an idiot in my pre season preview. How the hell did this guy go from being a player that looked like an absolute steal in pre-season to me now wondering how did they ever sucker us into giving away Collison for him. God I hope he picks this up because as it stands now he is not playing anymore a game than Lou was and we are now back to using West as the backup 5. If that stands we could have saved ourselves a lot of money and signed someone a lot cheaper.
Again it’s early and yes there was improvement but there really is a lot to be concerned about.
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