No more midget "center" ftw.
We should have signed Deron Williams.
Okay, if DJ Augustin were playing for the Lakers, Heat, Mavs, Celtics, Knicks, Nets, Clippers, Bulls, or Nuggets, he would make the skeptic's perceived Darren Collison take a **** on himself. Augustin made the LOLCATS look good last year, and now he plays for a better team, and his stock drops.
Oh, Mahinmi's effort vs. Amundson's doesn't prove to you that Mahinmi's good? Did you neither see nor hear nor read any of the reviews, highlights, or discussion of how much upside these guys have? Mahinmi has, what, 3 inches on Looooouuuuuu, but his athleticism, length, and defensive presence does nothing for you?
Hey, what has two legs, a head full of hype and helium, and costs $100k more, yet is 5 years younger than Dahntay Jones?
<<- Check the avatar.
Like Jones, Green met his NBA rebirth after a stint in the D-League. Green was a prodigy coming out of high school, but lacked intangibles to be a productive player. Jones spent the last two seasons trying to perfect that corner 3-pointer that he constantly shot, but rarely made (at least until the latter half of 2012 season). His defense is tenacious, yes; but Green's effort, talent, and ability to be a major scoring option off the bench are skills/factors that Jones lacks.
Is he young? Yes. Is he still getting accustomed to his new team, new teammates, new coaching staff, and new life? Probably. Are we only 3.658536585% through the regular season and people are jumping to conclusions? Absolutely. This is PacerNation. I'm sure there are several in tears over not having Fez this year, even though his spot was so easily taken by a combination of Pendergraph and Ben Hansbrough.
In other words,
CHILL OUT. There's plenty of time to earn your fandom back.
Remember this my friends: sometimes the best move you make is the move you do not make.
The Bobcats never looked good last year and no one made them look good.
The only thing I miss about last years team is their reactions on the bench. They were way more fun to watch.
I think once the team gets used to each other we will be noticeably better than last year. There is definitely more talent on this team, that's for sure. Yes, it is true that this team does not rely on one player, but not having Danny messes up the way this team works. Having Danny causes the defense to focus more on him which allows for the rest of our starters to get easier shots. Not having him messes a lot of stuff up. The second unit isn't what it should be because Vogel is forced to start Green who wasn't expecting to come in here and start. The guy came off the bench for the lowly Nets last year and is now starting on a playoff team so I think it's natural for him to be kinda nervous or thrown off. He had a solid game last night and I think it will get better as time goes on. We'll probably keep having close games until Danny gets back, but as long as we win more than we lose we should be fine. Once Danny gets back everything should fall into place and everybody will have forgotten about our early struggles. Like people have been saying... all teams struggle with significant roster changes at first. Look at the Heat when they were first assembled, look at the Lakers right now... I think we'll be ok.
An awful lot of people dismissing the idea, but DC was a starting level point guard that was better than his stats showed because of a poor offense. Now with a coach that puts guys in the best positions to succeed he looks like a stud.
We lost out because of our coaching, plain and simple. Losing DC was a huge blow.
Removed link to my website after a PM from Able.
Most of our money went to re signing George and Roy.
It's easy to "miss" our other players after 3 games, but lets see if we miss them after the AS break. I'm guessing we won't.
That isn't true. Collison was the Pacers starter for 50 plus games last year only losing his starting PG spot due to an injury. The Pacers had a good record with DC a starter. Is DC not starting in Dallas now? Not to mention Augustin was a starter on the Bobcats last year and under Brown at times with Felton there.
Your comment about journeyman being replaced by journeyman is misleading, b/c the quality of the journeyman the Pacers got, Green and Mahinmi, are better than the journeyman, Lou and Dahntay, the Pacers lost.
W/o a doubt the Pacers upgraded their bench with Green, Augustin, and Mahinmi. Unfortunately, the Pacers gave 4 year guaranteed contracts to Green and Mahinmi. IMO, that wasn't a smart move. The last 2 years of the contract should have been Team Options just in case they player didn't work out.
By the way do I think this bench can help the Pacers beat Miami,Boston,etc? No way.
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god damnit we are 3 games into the season. settle down. between this and the "is this team overrated thread", i actually can't believe the complaining. ITS BEEN THREE GAMES.