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    So, according to Frank, Lance is our best wing option after Paul. My question is, if he believes that why is Lance the last player to get off the bench? Subbing in Green after he had continually fell asleep defensively earlier in the game was monumentally stupid. If he was worried about Lance running out of gas he should adjust his rotation so that he can give Lance a breather in the 4th. Get it together Frank. You can't draw up a play that the guys can execute to save your life. The least you can do is put our best players on the court.

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    So, according to Frank, Lance is our best wing option after Paul. My question is, if he believes that why is Lance the last player to get off the bench? Subbing in Green after he had continually fell asleep defensively earlier in the game was monumentally stupid. If he was worried about Lance running out of gas he should adjust his rotation so that he can give Lance a breather in the 4th. Get it together Frank. You can't draw up a play that the guys can execute to save your life. The least you can do is put our best players on the court.
    Something doesn't add up. Let's hope we see something more sane tonight.
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    Lance should be starting, whether at the 1 or 2. Him and GHill should be interchangeable on the court together.

    I just when Vogel is going to put the best players on the court to start and finish the game.
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    Something doesn't add up. Let's hope we see something more sane tonight.
    All Frank has to say is that he EFF'd up, he didn't think about putting in Young and that he made a mistake.
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    Lance should be starting, whether at the 1 or 2. Him and GHill should be interchangeable on the court together.

    I just when Vogel is going to put the best players on the court to start and finish the game.
    At this point....I'm willing to let Lance and Miles make mistakes....cuz honestly...anyone outside of GH, West and ( usually ) PG.....everyone else is doing poorly. Letting Lance and Miles make mistakes is no less damaging than letting anyone outside of the Starting 3 make mistakes.
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    At this point....I'm willing to let Lance and Miles make mistakes....cuz honestly...anyone outside of GH, West and ( usually ) PG.....everyone else is doing poorly. Letting Lance and Miles make mistakes is no less damaging than letting anyone outside of the Starting 3 make mistakes.
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    We get our wish. Lance starting tonight.

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    We get our wish. Lance starting tonight.
    Interesting. Can't be worse than Green or Young starting anyway.

    My worry with Lance is the same thing we've been seeing with Green and Mahinmi - former low minute players thrust into major roles, and wilting under the responsibility. Hope Lance can handle the pressure better.

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    Lance haters please step forward and admit Lance is playing well.

    Looked good in his first start.
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    Lance haters please step forward and admit Lance is playing well.

    Looked good in his first start.
    yeah, he did. gotta say i really like the george hill and Lance backcourt. They have nice synergy. Which is probably why Larry got them both in the first place. Letting Lance run the offense gives Hill some easy shots and some time to stand in the corner and catch a breather.

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    i think lance has finally turned a corner. i had given up hope that he was ever going to turn into a real player in this league. happy to see that i was wrong and he is doing it for us and not TO us.

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    Lance haters please step forward and admit Lance is playing well.

    Looked good in his first start.
    He did look good. He looked under control and had a better understanding of when to attack versus when to make the simple play.

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    Lance haters please step forward and admit Lance is playing well.

    Looked good in his first start.
    I admit he is playing much better than I thought he could play, much more in control. Keep it up, Lance

    We could really use a two guard like him, who can penetrate and handle the ball.

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    He did look good. He looked under control and had a better understanding of when to attack versus when to make the simple play.
    +1

    He absolutely played better than either Green/Young in the same role. Well done, Lance. He's come a long, long way since 2 years ago.

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    More than anything, I love Lance's passion. He HATES getting beat on defense.

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    Lance haters please step forward and admit Lance is playing well.

    Looked good in his first start.
    Anybody remember what the preseason thread was where people were saying he should get cut?
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    The thing is, Lance will have bad games, but he's been pretty consistent so far which has surprised even me. I think he'll have more good games than bad. The guy really wants to learn and grow, and it's now starting to show.
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    Lance still has some holes in his game, but it's been very cool to see him progress over the years to the point where he is now a pretty serviceable NBA player. He's leapyears ahead of when he was a rook. Even defensively.
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    Lance still has some holes in his game, but it's been very cool to see him progress over the years to the point where he is now a pretty serviceable NBA player. He's leapyears ahead of when he was a rook. Even defensively.
    Especially defensively.

    He's a become a decent defender, and nothing makes me think he's close to maxing out his defensive skills. More reps will help him a lot. If he keeps working on defense over the next year the way he did over the past year, he could be a good team defender by next season.
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    More than anything, I love Lance's passion. He HATES getting beat on defense.
    This is such a great point.

    You see a guy like Gerald or Roy getting beat on defense and they seem a little frustrated. Lance gets beat, and he LOCKS IN. He's got that Danny swagger, won't back down/wants a shot at their top guy.

    Like others have said, he'll make some mistakes. However, it's clear he's fully invested in this team, and has provided a spark that we haven't gotten from anyone else. He needs to continue to focus on playing under control, but the risk/reward has definitely been more reward this season.

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    Anybody remember what the preseason thread was where people were saying he should get cut?
    Yep some people have wanted to cut the guy for a while now, I wonder where they are?

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    Yep some people have wanted to cut the guy for a while now, I wonder where they are?
    Crying into their Gerald Green jerseys.

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    Yep some people have wanted to cut the guy for a while now, I wonder where they are?
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    Lance haters please step forward and admit Lance is playing well.

    Looked good in his first start.

    I am glad they finally started playing him some real minutes because he needs reps for us to find out what we have. I am glad to see
    Him have a good couple games. If he keeps progressing having him paired with Hill is a good combo, plus they move Paul to small forward where he should be with this group starters. It actually looked like they were running some offense last night.
    They looked awful against the Spurs.
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