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    Starters should now be Augustin, Hill, George, West, Hibbert. Offensively, what a lineup! Ball movement should be awesome, good shooters at most points on the court. Defense could prove problematic against teams with quick penetrators though.

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    According to Wells Hill is not ready to play either, so it looks like the starting unit is going to be different for a while.

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    According to Wells Hill is not ready to play either, so it looks like the starting unit is going to be different for a while.
    I don't think Wells is saying Granger is not prepared to play. He's just saying if he does so, it will be with pain. I think, like West, Granger will set an example for the younger players by playing with/through pain. The Pacers have high expectations and that requires granger, and more importantly, he knows it.

    I say play Granger as much as is required to win games. No less, and hopefully not much more.

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    If he has to play in order for the scar tissue to break up, doesn't that mean that Granger will be playing.

    He's just going to be hurting? Which means we are likely to see a decreased performance from him.

    I'm more concerned about Hill to be honest. Hip pointers can linger.

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    That's crazy talk. Who says Danny takes summers off?
    I thought I heard people say as much in relation to how he starts off so slow every season. Of course, I could be mistaken. It happened once before, in 1993.
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    I thought I heard people say as much in relation to how he starts off so slow every season. Of course, I could be mistaken. It happened once before, in 1993.
    The only place I've ever heard it is from people on this board that don't like Danny

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    According to Wells Hill is not ready to play either, so it looks like the starting unit is going to be different for a while.
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    Whether or not he's out at sporadic times during the season, Paul and/or Gerald should fill in very nicely.

    This is where Sam Young comes in handy. A solid player to have when needed.

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    Agree. If Danny needs to play to break up the scars and play through the pain, I think that's what he will do. I believe DG played thru a lot more pain than we heard about last year. If Frank has to limit Danny's time, it will give us an earlier look at PG, Green and Young. Silver lining?

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    I think we should start Gerald Green and let Granger rest. If he doesn't get better, we can trade him (probably for nothing) or if we can, amnesty him.

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    I think we should start Gerald Green and let Granger rest. If he doesn't get better, we can trade him (probably for nothing) or if we can, amnesty him.
    This stuff is hilarious. People are acting like his leg got chopped off.

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    I'm concerned, but not overly freaking out. If he's hobbled all season clearly that changes the outlook. And yet Green getting more playing time intrigues me.
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    I think we should start Gerald Green and let Granger rest. If he doesn't get better, we can trade him (probably for nothing) or if we can, amnesty him.
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    His leg is not shopped off but if you are not worried I don't know what to tell you, and nope I don't think Green, PG or anybody else on the Pacers can replace him.

    At this point lets hope he can play and not be a burden like JO, Dunleavy, etc.

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    I think we should start Gerald Green and let Granger rest. If he doesn't get better, we can trade him (probably for nothing) or if we can, amnesty him.
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    It isn't unprecedented for PRP to take multiple injections to really get back, and there is a 4-6 waiting period between each one. Also, we know that he has experienced reduction in pain from articles a few weeks back. Since then he's started working it harder, and he's experiencing pain due to built up scar tissue in the knee, which Danny notes, pain resulting from the built up scar tissue won't go away by resting it, which he mentioned as well, thus, he has to play through it, in spite of the pain. As he builds up game-strength in the knee, and the PRP therapy stimulates his natural healing factors in the knee, repairing the scar tissue he should feel less and less pain over time. Danny hasn't even mentioned sitting out at all, that was editorializing on the part of Wells, whom i've learned not to put too much creedance in if he isn't directly reporting something. Danny will be grimacing for a while, but once some more of that scar tissue is broken up he'll be better off in the long run. We're lucky enough to have some decent depth now, so that we don't force Danny to push it too far too early.
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    i just hope it doesn't turn into an injury like this plantar Fascia which was made much worse by his over compensating while playing injured.
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    Anyway, didn't the Pacers amnesty Posey?

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    I think we should start Gerald Green and let Granger rest. If he doesn't get better, we can trade him (probably for nothing) or if we can, amnesty him.
    Trade him for nothing or amnesty...

    The Granger for Humphries trade idea just got topped.

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    Anyway, didn't the Pacers amnesty Posey?
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    i just hope it doesn't turn into an injury like this plantar Fascia which was made much worse by his over compensating while playing injured.
    It appears to be scar tissue in the knee, it's not something that should really structurally affect gait or anything it will be sore, and hurt, but I don't think it is something that's going to get re-aggravated due to playing on it, unless of course he injures it in some unrelated incident, which could always happen.

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    His leg is not shopped off but if you are not worried I don't know what to tell you, and nope I don't think Green, PG or anybody else on the Pacers can replace him.
    Wait, what? The way you talk, I'd figure Granger could be replaced by an 80-year-old with a walker.
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    It isn't unprecedented for PRP to take multiple injections to really get back, and there is a 4-6 waiting period between each one.
    More information like this, please!

    I don't really understand the procedure that Granger had, but I'd like to hear more about it. All I heard is that it's the same one Kobe had, and Kobe's leg doesn't seem to have fallen off since then.

    What is PRP? Why does a player have it done? Is this related to the knee injury he had in college? What's long-term prognosis look like? What should we expect in the interim?
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    Wait, what? The way you talk, I'd figure Granger could be replaced by an 80-year-old with a walker.
    Not an 80 years old man with a walker but more like a Mike Dunleavy after the surgery, or JO, or Jeff Foster, or Bender,etc, I know that many of you love to ignore it but Danny dropped to the Pacers because teams expected this to happen, his knee is going to be an issue with scar tissue or not.

    And nope I'm not comparing him to Dunleavy or JO I'm just using it an example in how much productivity looks like Danny is going to lose with this constant pain in his knee.
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    nope I don't think Green, PG or anybody else on the Pacers can replace him.
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    Wait, what? The way you talk, I'd figure Granger could be replaced by an 80-year-old with a walker.
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    Not an 80 years old man with a walker but more like a Mike Dunleavy after the surgery, or JO, or Jeff Foster, or Bender,etc
    That doesn't make any sense. He can't be replaced by Green or Paul George, but he can be replaced by Dunleavy, JO, Foster, or Bender?

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    That doesn't make any sense. He can't be replaced by Green or Paul George, but he can be replaced by Dunleavy, JO, Foster, or Bender?

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    I think we're lost in translation here.

    I believe vnzla is saying that he worries Granger's knee trouble may turn into something similar to what we saw with MDJ after the surgery, never returning to form. Or JO never getting back to his All-Star form. Or the terrible Bender saga where he could never stay healthy enough to shock the world. Not that any of those players could replace Danny.

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