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    Never saw that coming....

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ize-david-kahn

    Interesting take on Kahn.

    But for the occasional Sam Presti or R.C. Buford, GMs basically all have Kahn-like collections of mistakes in their records. A third of the league is out of contention every season largely because of self-inflicted wounds; the NBA transaction list is littered with trades that were destined to fail from day one. How much better could the Kings be? What about the Suns, Nets, Wizards, Pistons and Raptors?

    Kahn might belong on your poster of front-office incompetence. But surely not alone, and he surely doesn't even get to kneel in front holding the game ball. He's the king when it comes to making a spectacle of poor decision making. But when it comes to actually making the decisions, plenty of others have done worse.
    His drafting of three point guards is still hilarious though, not sure if it's worse than Hawks wasting 3 consecutive years drafting Small Forwards (Sheldan Williams, Josh Childress Marvin Williams Josh Smith, at least one panned out).
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    Never saw that coming....
    Good call. What's with the consultant thing though? Sounds like just a short term appointment focused only on the coaching search (Shaw?). Does it mean he's free to pursue other, more permanent posts (e.g. Toronto).

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    Good call. What's with the consultant thing though? Sounds like just a short term appointment focused only on the coaching search (Shaw?). Does it mean he's free to pursue other, more permanent posts (e.g. Toronto).
    Pretty much. "Hey Phil, you've been involved in the NBA for decades and have a couple fists of rings, help us out," type deal. So Phil says sure, gimme 300k or whatever and then I'll tell you to hire Brian Shaw as soon as the check clears. Pretty sweet gig.

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    Pretty much. "Hey Phil, you've been involved in the NBA for decades and have a couple fists of rings, help us out," type deal. So Phil says sure, gimme 300k or whatever and then I'll tell you to hire Brian Shaw as soon as the check clears. Pretty sweet gig.
    That's exactly why it doesn't make sense to me. I'd think Phil would want his coaching tree to survive and prosper, and Shaw really seems the best qualified of his former assistants. Even posters like us could see that his likely answer is "Shaw". So why should the Pistons bother with a consulting fee and not just hire Shaw directly?

    It could mean as little as the Pistons just wanting to be associated with PJ, even if it's just a tiny bit (doesn't make much sense to me though). Or it could mean a larger role for PJ later on. Maybe the Pistons are having cold feet about firing Pistons legend Dumars. PJ supposedly wants full control of whichever franchise he goes too, so really can't see him coexisting with Dumars in the Pistons FO.

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    That's exactly why it doesn't make sense to me. I'd think Phil would want his coaching tree to survive and prosper, and Shaw really seems the best qualified of his former assistants. Even posters like us could see that his likely answer is "Shaw". So why should the Pistons bother with a consulting fee and not just hire Shaw directly?

    It could mean as little as the Pistons just wanting to be associated with PJ, even if it's just a tiny bit (doesn't make much sense to me though). Or it could mean a larger role for PJ later on. Maybe the Pistons are having cold feet about firing Pistons legend Dumars. PJ supposedly wants full control of whichever franchise he goes too, so really can't see him coexisting with Dumars in the Pistons FO.
    I don't know, maybe it's the whole cachet of "Phil Jackson said to hire X," Detroit's been through 3 coaches in the last 6 years and none exactly instilled confidence in the fanbase obviously. So now they've got a pretty nice Drummond/Monroe combo to really do something with, Brandon Knight's sorta kinda something maybe, whatever they trade Stuckey for, have a high pick this draft. A Drummond/Monroe/Knight/Oladipo (perhaps) young core, with a PJ endorsed head coach, maybe they think that'll buy em some time to actually get something together instead of just firing guys after two years time and time again.

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    Pretty much. "Hey Phil, you've been involved in the NBA for decades and have a couple fists of rings, help us out," type deal. So Phil says sure, gimme 300k or whatever and then I'll tell you to hire Brian Shaw as soon as the check clears. Pretty sweet gig.
    I actually don't think Phil would recommend Shaw as Detroit's coach, only because he would want Shaw for himself as the coach of wherever he lands a front office position. That is, unless Detroit is that team. Assuming that isn't the case though, I think Phil will endorse someone else who would be a good fit with Detroit's talent.

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    WE ARE NOT GETTING ERIC GORDON

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    Ok, let the theories begin. I'll get it out there to start. Retired? yeah right, he was so bad that Carlisle quietly asked him to resign please. Everyone hated him of course.
    He is 62 years old

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    Come on UB you don't need to get all cranky we know you are going to miss his beautiful face

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    Ok, let the theories begin. I'll get it out there to start. Retired? yeah right, he was so bad that Carlisle quietly asked him to resign please. Everyone hated him of course.
    He is 62 years old

    Yeah, it was probably his age.

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    Come on UB you don't need to get all cranky we know you are going to miss his beautiful face
    Where in my post is there any evidence that I am cranky.

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    Pretty much. "Hey Phil, you've been involved in the NBA for decades and have a couple fists of rings, help us out," type deal. So Phil says sure, gimme 300k or whatever and then I'll tell you to hire Brian Shaw as soon as the check clears. Pretty sweet gig.
    He's not getting paid for this. He's friends with the owner.

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    Just a question, since Phil Jackson wants a GM/President type of role and he gets one with any team besides Lakers, wouldn't that be a conflict of interest since his fiancé/wife owns a majority share of the Lakers

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    Just a question, since Phil Jackson wants a GM/President type of role and he gets one with any team besides Lakers, wouldn't that be a conflict of interest since his fiancé/wife owns a majority share of the Lakers
    Thats what Adam Silver has "Basketball Reasons" for.
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    Just a question, since Phil Jackson wants a GM/President type of role and he gets one with any team besides Lakers, wouldn't that be a conflict of interest since his fiancé/wife owns a majority share of the Lakers
    I don't think there's a rule against spouses being employed by competing organizations....
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    Twitter says he's basically exactly what you'd think a Morey assistant to be, all analytics all the time.

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    And Brandon Roy got waived, so that's gotta REALLY be it for him this time. Shame.

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    also, per Chad Ford on espn radio, the Schroeder promise comes from a mid round team. In case you didn't read that thread on this forum / don't remember, Schroeder was projected to go to the Pacers at one point and there was some discussion about it here. Anyway, that possibility seems dead.

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    I want Antetokounmpo just to hear Quinn Buckner say it multiple times a game

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    Billy Hunter sues Derek Fisher

    Ousted NBA players' association executive director Billy Hunter alleges in a lawsuit that president Derek Fisher had a secret deal with owners during the 2011 lockout that benefited himself, his publicist and certain players.

    Hunter contends that Fisher undermined Hunter's efforts to make an agreement and interfered with his position by secretly negotiating with select owners in violation of union bylaws.

    ....

    The suit says owners were aided by Fisher when they locked out players in July 2011 after the expiration of the last collective bargaining agreement. It says the veteran guard realized he could have been on his last contract as a player, so he wanted to secure a "soft landing" after his career by keeping good relations with the league and team owners, even while Hunter was committed to a firm stance.

    "Unbeknownst to Hunter, however, Fisher was secretly negotiating with the Certain Owners -- on his own and without any authority -- to settle the negotiations on terms less favorable to the players," the suit says.

    ...
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/92...t-derek-fisher

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    draft combine measurements

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-d...e-measurements

    Rudy Gobert at 9'7'' reach

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    Lots of short point guards

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    Cody threw down a 37.5 inch max vert today apparently. A full 1.5 inches more than Mason plumlee. And he ran by far the fast spring of any of the bigs, 3.15 seconds.

    Even crazier, Cody did a 35.5 inch standing vert, Mason did 30.5 inches. Cody is measuring really well from an athletic standpoint.

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    Cody threw down a 37.5 inch max vert today apparently. A full 1.5 inches more than Mason plumlee. And he ran by far the fast spring of any of the bigs, 3.15 seconds.

    Even crazier, Cody did a 35.5 inch standing vert, Mason did 30.5 inches. Cody is measuring really well from an athletic standpoint.
    The 8'10" standing reach is pretty disappointing. But everything else looks good. Clearly has to be a 4 but I think that was pretty well understood.
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