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    Ibaka's contract is pretty bad IMO

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    Uncle Drew's back

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    Who can shoot like Nash. I dont really have a good comparison. I like the Tony Parker one because they both are elite at changing speeds. However Lillard's strength sets him apart from TP. I really dont like comparisons every player is so different in many ways. All I know is I would of done whatever it took to get him in the draft he will be what Morey calls a foundational player and you can't really overpay for a 21 year old foundational player.

    I think Chris Paul is a very good comparison. He's not as flashy and different as a passer but he has the same dribbling/penetration ability, a very strong ability to stay in balance after contact, plays under control, etc. you get the sense from both guys that they can score at will but don't in favor of the team. They are different enough though. I don't think there is a great player comparison out there. Maybe if Steph Curry and Chris Paul had a baby.

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    I don't know what happened to Perkins but he has become such a waste of space.
    He was always this bad...Such an overrated used as a scapegoat for salty Celtics fans

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    Ibaka's contract is pretty bad IMO
    For a shot blocker like him that can hit a jump shot? I'm surprised he didn't get the max.

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    Curry - hurt all the time -- give him $11M/yr.
    Derozan - pretty one dimensional scorer that can't hit a three -- give him $10M/yr!!!!!
    Hoiliday - I'm actually not that mad about this one...he's a really good defender for his position which is a premium in a league full of great pgs, and he's gonna get better. He'll be overpaid, but not grossly.
    Gordon - hurt all the time - GIVE HIM THE MAX!!

    I see another lockout in our near future...Owners are just dumb and that won't change, and they'll ***** and complain but they are the ones agreeing to these deals. Owners can just refuse. Even the Lakers can't sign every high price FA.

    I'm not really mad at the Hill deal now. I still think he's overpaid, but looking at what some players are getting, the Pacers really do it right. One of the very few teams, but I guess they learned their lesson from JO and then Murphleavy. 1 or 2 bad contracts can hurt your team for years.
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    Antonio McDyess is thinking about a comeback

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    Hope the Knicks sign him, they'd have awesome shuffleboard tournaments

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    For a shot blocker like him that can hit a jump shot? I'm surprised he didn't get the max.
    Heh, he can do those two things, and not much else. And he cost them Harden.

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    they really gotta get Shaq off TNT, he's just terrible. and he overshadows Webber, who's legitimately outstanding.

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    they really gotta get Shaq off TNT, he's just terrible. and he overshadows Webber, who's legitimately outstanding.
    Agreed.

    Also, what is the statute of limitations for us as Pacers fans to discuss how truly awful Reggie Miller is as an analyst?
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    Uncle Drew's back

    That move Unc put on them at the 3:00 mark is crazy.

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    That move Unc put on them at the 3:00 mark is crazy.
    Which is why the mini-street baller phase in the NBA (Rafer Alston, I'm looking at you) was always so silly. Take someone like Kyrie or CP3 out to any playground in America and they are going to house everyone off the bounce.

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    Which is why the mini-street baller phase in the NBA (Rafer Alston, I'm looking at you) was always so silly. Take someone like Kyrie or CP3 out to any playground in America and they are going to house everyone off the bounce.
    At this point, is it too early to say that Kyrie is the 2nd best PG in the NBA? Deron, Westbrook, and Rose might have something to say about that, but for my money, Irving is the most fun to watch.

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    At this point, is it too early to say that Kyrie is the 2nd best PG in the NBA? Deron, Westbrook, and Rose might have something to say about that, but for my money, Irving is the most fun to watch.
    A bit too early but it would be hard to convince me that he isn't going to be there in a year or two, especially seeing how Rose comes back from his injury. Cavaliers got lucky they robbed the Clippers of that pick.

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    At this point, is it too early to say that Kyrie is the 2nd best PG in the NBA? Deron, Westbrook, and Rose might have something to say about that, but for my money, Irving is the most fun to watch.
    I agree with you about how fun he is to watch. I thought it was the silliest thing in the world that people were worried about him because of Duke. He is a prototype point guard in every way. I could see him having some really big statistical seasons if Cleveland can surround him with enough talent.

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    I agree with everyone else completely. Kyrie Irving might be right there with Rondo as my favorite point guard to watch. He has such a smooth game.


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    Curry - hurt all the time -- give him $11M/yr.
    Derozan - pretty one dimensional scorer that can't hit a three -- give him $10M/yr!!!!!
    Hoiliday - I'm actually not that mad about this one...he's a really good defender for his position which is a premium in a league full of great pgs, and he's gonna get better. He'll be overpaid, but not grossly.
    Gordon - hurt all the time - GIVE HIM THE MAX!!

    I see another lockout in our near future...Owners are just dumb and that won't change, and they'll ***** and complain but they are the ones agreeing to these deals. Owners can just refuse. Even the Lakers can't sign every high price FA.

    I'm not really mad at the Hill deal now. I still think he's overpaid, but looking at what some players are getting, the Pacers really do it right. One of the very few teams, but I guess they learned their lesson from JO and then Murphleavy. 1 or 2 bad contracts can hurt your team for years.
    Curry - think that deal is pretty good, actually. If he wasn't hurt so much, it would be max. They are getting discount for his health, and he might end up just fine for all we know.
    Holiday - that one is fine, i agree. Overpaid, but he can live up to it. I don't think he's reached his potential either offensively or defensively yet.
    Gordon - we'll see. It doesn't look pretty, but it's something you have to do. Worst case, they'll probably be able to pull off a Joe Johnson to Brooklyn for expirings and picks type of deal.
    DeRozan deal is the one that baffles me. You only give that kind of deal if you expect a major improvement this year. Given his play till now, and his slow improvement rate, I think it's much safer and smarter to just let him hit free agency.

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    hated shaq at first but hes grown on me. i dont really watch it for analysis anyway. i tune in for the comic relief.

    anybody catch TYson last night saying he'd woop Chucks ***? Chucks response was classic. he looked right into the camera and got real serious and said "Mike, when you're right you're right". lol

    edit: found it.... http://youtu.be/dPSNVTYTNcs
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    Agreed.

    Also, what is the statute of limitations for us as Pacers fans to discuss how truly awful Reggie Miller is as an analyst?
    I don't know, but he is truly awful.

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    JaJuan Johnson is apparently heading to D-League. I'm a bit surprised that no NBA team has picked him up yet.

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    I think he's certain to get a call up at some point though.

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    The Beard has 22 points on 12 shots for Houston so far. He really might threaten the scoring title, no one else on that team can score.

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    Harden is great. Just a wow trade.

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    NY is looking way better with Felton and Kidd playing at the same time, the ball moves better.

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    18/6 for Tobias Harris against Boston. Just give that kid minutes, he's gonna be good.

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    btw Lillard is incredible.

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