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    Taj Gibsion 38 million over 4 years
    Damn, close to 25mil a year with Boozer and him, meh.

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    Taj Gibsion 38 million over 4 years
    cya carlos.
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    Damn, close to 25mil a year with Boozer and him, meh.
    carlos is gone at years end.
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    Taj Gibsion 38 million over 4 years
    Damn. I like Gibson a lot but that's a helluva lot for a role player.

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    Damn. I like Gibson a lot but that's a helluva lot for a role player.
    I'm not complaining that is a ridiculous amount of money IMO. It really puts them in a tough spot as far as I'm concerned to bring in a secondary scorer to Rose.

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    Damn Bogut is playing.
    He is really out of shape but he isnt playing that bad. My man Brandon Rush is playing like he always does dude is solid.


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    Nash is beyond useless at the lakers Steve Blake might aswell be out there

    it's just not going to work with these 4 players imo.

    they dont mesh correctly.
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    Nash is beyond useless at the lakers Steve Blake might aswell be out there

    it's just not going to work with these 4 players imo.

    they dont mesh correctly.
    Eh, but they should mesh correctly really. A creative PG, a scoring wing, a dominant interior post guy, and a really good high post big man with skill? That should mesh all day, the 5th guy should just stand in the corner on offense. Here's the thing, the Princeton is pretty much the dumbest offense in the world to use for this Lakers team, they will probably figure it out eventually and still be good, but they won't be as good as they could be.

    The Princeton offense was designed to level the playing field for a team that isn't as good as most of it's opponents. Take care of the ball, take care of defensive lapses and don't force it. Well, the Lakers are definitely better than most of their opponents so all the Princeton offense is realy doing right now is making them decidedly average. A Princeton offense can only get you so far, it will give any team a punchers chance in any game if used effectively, but if you're a really good team it's rarely going to ever produce your highest rate of offensive return. Especially in the NBA. IMO Brown is just being a big dumbass who is trying to prove how good of a coach he is by doing this. Why reinvent the damn wheel here? Yes, they will probably figure it out eventually and still be good and they will beat most teams, but IMO it limits their ceiling.

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    Eh, but they should mesh correctly really. A creative PG, a scoring wing, a dominant interior post guy, and a really good high post big man with skill? That should mesh all day, the 5th guy should just stand in the corner on offense. Here's the thing, the Princeton is pretty much the dumbest offense in the world to use for this Lakers team, they will probably figure it out eventually and still be good, but they won't be as good as they could be.

    The Princeton offense was designed to level the playing field for a team that isn't as good as most of it's opponents. Take care of the ball, take care of defensive lapses and don't force it. Well, the Lakers are definitely better than most of their opponents so all the Princeton offense is realy doing right now is making them decidedly average. A Princeton offense can only get you so far, it will give any team a punchers chance in any game if used effectively, but if you're a really good team it's rarely going to ever produce your highest rate of offensive return. Especially in the NBA. IMO Brown is just being a big dumbass who is trying to prove how good of a coach he is by doing this. Why reinvent the damn wheel here? Yes, they will probably figure it out eventually and still be good and they will beat most teams, but IMO it limits their ceiling.
    FYI Kobe is the one who wanted the Princeton and hand picked Eddie Jordan to be the OC of it. I really doubt Mike Brown has anything to do with that offense Eddie Jordan made his living running it. I really like a triangle based offense(which the Princeton is a form of)

    But I agree it made no sense to get Nash he is a good shooter which is required in the system but when you have Nash you should just run but that style doesnt win unless you defend.

    I think if you give it time it will work they will need time. But make no mistake about it they will let Nash be Nash when the time comes(playoff time) IMO and they will run more and not use the Princeton as much.

    But that offense is really good and would be a great fit if they didnt have Nash.


    You can tell HOU just ran basic PnR and just gave the ball to Harden and said make plays for us. The Lakers could do that with Nash and Kobe now but come playoff time when defenses clamp up that wont work every time down. I like that they will have structure and eventually will have freedom(I think the shackles will come off after Christmas once it's clear they fully understand the system)

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    @AlexReiff: “Jermaine O'Neal immediate impact in his Phoenix debut. Five minutes, no shots, no points, no rebounds...minus-10.”

    JO is still playing!?!

    Lol

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    @ESPNSteinLine: Four years, $41 million for Jrue Holiday before midnight buzzer, sources tell ESPN

    Wow

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    @ESPNSteinLine: Four years, $41 million for Jrue Holiday before midnight buzzer, sources tell ESPN

    Wow
    I think he will regret that he would of got more if he plays like he is capable of this season IMO.



    atta boy Damian!!


    GS plays terrible and win it's gonna be a long season for the Suns.


    Curry and Lee combined 4-30


    Landry and Rush only guys who could find the basket tonight everyone else struggled.
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    Lakers getting housed. Holy crap

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    The lakers are really, really slow on defense. Even without Nash they have multiple old guys that can't move their feet anymore...

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    The lakers are really, really slow on defense. Even without Nash they have multiple old guys that can't move their feet anymore...
    Yep Dwight putting so much out offensively he's not able to anchor
    So you've got these old dudes and a tired Dwight not a great combo

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    lillard with 21 points and 10 assists in his first game, and it's not even over yet...

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    So this is a long shot, but anyone in/around Franklin? I'm gonna have 6 hours to kill there tomorrow, anything at all to do other than play with my phone? Bowling alley? Movies? Something?

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    Lakers at 0-2. 0-10 if you want to get cute and count preseason.

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    Obviously the Lakeshow will get it together at some point.

    But on a serious note, they won't ever reach their potential if they don't figure out how to play defense. Say what you want about the offensive system. They have so much talent on that side of the ball that they'll be an offensive juggernaut at some point. Even if it takes all season. But man they look lost as hell on D. Atrocious. You can't play D like that and compete for a title.
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    So MJ screwed up again by picking MKG instead of Damian Lillard? DL looks like the real deal, he is like a bigger version of CP3.

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    Can we finally end the argument about whether Harden is overrated because he was playing alongside Durant and Westbrook. I think it is evident and will continue to be evident that he was way, way underrated because he was on OKC. I've said for a couple of years he is a star and he is now proving it

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    Can we finally end the argument about whether Harden is overrated because he was playing alongside Durant and Westbrook. I think it is evident and will continue to be evident that he was way, way underrated because he was on OKC. I've said for a couple of years he is a star and he is now proving it
    I know it was just one game but he looked like a superstar yesterday, Houston robbed OKC and OKC is going to regret giving him away.

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    So MJ screwed up again by picking MKG instead of Damian Lillard? DL looks like the real deal, he is like a bigger version of CP3.
    He was #2 on my big board by a wide wide margin. I don't liken him to CP3 they play different type of game. I fell he and Davis would both be superstars if they progress like I scouted.

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    So MJ screwed up again by picking MKG instead of Damian Lillard? DL looks like the real deal, he is like a bigger version of CP3.
    way too soon. MKG wasn't expected to have huge impact early on, it's kind of a Derrick Favors type pick.

    Even if it does turn out that way, it's a bit like questioning Hasheem Thabeet over Brandon Jennings. Lillard was a riser, but i don't think any GM would've picked him #2. Now if Thomas Robinson or Beal or Drummond become stars and MKG doesn't, then it's fair enough.

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    He was #2 on my big board by a wide wide margin. I don't liken him to CP3 they play different type of game. I fell he and Davis would both be superstars if they progress like I scouted.
    Yeah now that I think about it he kinds of reminds me of a young Baron Davis.

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