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    Why would we do that?
    Only reason why. To get out of Hibbert's awful contract. He's a solid player, but not worth what he's making.

    I like Hibbert though. I was just saying it would be tempting. I doubt OKC wants Hibbert.
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    That does seem tempting.

    Hibbert + OJ + DJ
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    Perkins + PJ3 + Jackson + Lamb + Toronto 1st

    You could then try later to trade some of those young assets for a young C.

    I still think Hibbert will snap out of his offensive funk soon though. He looks like he's already starting to break out of it.
    That puts them right back into the tax situation that they traded Harden to escape. This also guarantees that they wouldn't be able to resign Kevin Martin.
    Essentially, they trade Harden+Jackson+PJ3 for Hibbert. Yuck.

    In the end, I think that Hibbert's salary just makes it impossible. Even if you took Toronto 1st out of the deal to make it a bit more even, it still screws up OKC financially too much.

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    You have to marvel at what Kobe is doing this season. 29.9 PPG, his most since 06-07, with a field goal percentage of 47.5%, which would be the highest of his career.

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    Only reason why. To get out of Hibbert's awful contract. He's a solid player, but not worth what he's making.

    I like Hibbert though. I was just saying it would be tempting. I doubt OKC wants Hibbert.
    And take on Perkin's awful contract in the process?

    Perkins is guaranteed a little over $25M in the next 3 years and is averaging 4.7 PPG and 5.1 RPG in 25.1 MPG. He has no semblance of offensive game and is a worse defender than Hibbert.

    OKC would die for Hibbert. Same with Miami. He is an elite rim protector that can provide inside scoring and has an actual back to the basket game. That's exactly what both of those teams would. Don't you think that they value a player that is able to stop the penetration by LBJ / Wade or Westbrook / Durant respectively?

    Plus, OKC wants to get rid of Perkins' contract badly. They want to get rid of it so bad that they could be willing to give some of their young prospects if that would mean that they could keep a core of Durant / Westbrook / Ibaka / Hibbert with Martin as a 6th man locked in for the next few years.

    If we were in a rebuilding mode then I could agree with this deal. But we are in win now mode. Dispose of Hibbert and we aren't winning anything. Not even the Division. We would be stupid to do this deal at the moment.

    PS: Oh and Hibbert is not in an awful contract. He is on a similar contract with Marc Gasol and they both are pretty comparable players
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    Lynn and the couple's remaining four children will be at Wednesday's game to offer more support to McHale.
    Off topic a bit but as someone who has lost a child I have to say how much I hate this phrasing. Sasha is still their child even though she has passed. "Remaining" makes it sound like she has been written out of the family.

    Use "other", and always count children who have died when mentioning how many children someone has.
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    Mark Cuban did a Reddit AMA

    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...his_is_my_ama/

    It's more about his business life than anything, but still some cool stuff.

    Anyone else find it weird that he's an IU alum, obviously a sports fanatic, but far as I know isn't involved in Bloomington at all? Not saying he should be T. Boone Pickens or anything, but still.

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    Mark Cuban did a Reddit AMA

    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...his_is_my_ama/

    It's more about his business life than anything, but still some cool stuff.

    Anyone else find it weird that he's an IU alum, obviously a sports fanatic, but far as I know isn't involved in Bloomington at all? Not saying he should be T. Boone Pickens or anything, but still.
    Rumor has it that he's the alumni that ponied up the Kelvin Sampson buyout money....
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    Mark Cuban did a Reddit AMA

    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...his_is_my_ama/

    It's more about his business life than anything, but still some cool stuff.

    Anyone else find it weird that he's an IU alum, obviously a sports fanatic, but far as I know isn't involved in Bloomington at all? Not saying he should be T. Boone Pickens or anything, but still.
    He hates the NCAA. He wants nothing to do with them.

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    Monty Williams says Eric Gordon to make his season debut on Saturday

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    Haha Monroe about knocked Daye out with a chest bump after Daye's clutch 3. Besides that shot there was lots of choking going on in the last minute. Smith missed two free throws and a 3, the rookie let Horford walk to the rim before being fouled, then Horford missed the game winning free throw. Damn good game though. Piston's killed it in the 4th, hope they pull it out.

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    How many layups can a team miss. Pistons missed 5 in one possession and then missed one that coulda won the game. Going to double OT...

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    Alls well that ends well...on a night the Pacers get denied the opportunity to put a shellacking on a wounded Bulls team, the next best thing happens. The Pistons lose in somewhat heartbraking fashion. Ahhhh....feels good.

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    In other news I truly believe the Wizards are just as bad as the Bobcats last season. I admit, they will probably win more games(slightly), but they are pitiful.

    Don't get me wrong, it isn't like they have 50 win talent, but how on earth are they this bad? I mean they have some solid role guys (Ariza, Webster), a talented PG (though admittedly struggling/injured), lottery talent (Beal, Veseley,), rebounding (Booker, Okafor) and a guy in Crawford who can fill it up. They aren't a 50 win team, but they certainly have more than 10 win talent.

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    In other news I truly believe the Wizards are just as bad as the Bobcats last season. I admit, they will probably win more games(slightly), but they are pitiful.

    Don't get me wrong, it isn't like they have 50 win talent, but how on earth are they this bad? I mean they have some solid role guys (Ariza, Webster), a talented PG (though admittedly struggling/injured), lottery talent (Beal, Veseley,), rebounding (Booker, Okafor) and a guy in Crawford who can fill it up. They aren't a 50 win team, but they certainly have more than 10 win talent.
    Ariza, Booker, Wall, Nene, Okafor, and Price have all been injured through significant portions of the season. (And are either not playing because of it or playing through it and it's effecting them...) They aren't that talented to begin with, but they were absolutely decimated by injuries.

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    Ariza, Booker, Wall, Nene, Okafor, and Price have all been injured through significant portions of the season. (And are either not playing because of it or playing through it and it's effecting them...) They aren't that talented to begin with, but they were absolutely decimated by injuries.
    Their coach sucks too.

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    Vesely may have been drafted in the lotto but he sure as hell isn't a lotto talent. He's AWFUL. There's absolutely no reason for him to get a 2nd NBA contract.

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    Vesely may have been drafted in the lotto but he sure as hell isn't a lotto talent. He's AWFUL. There's absolutely no reason for him to get a 2nd NBA contract.
    He will get a 2nd contract. Some team will take a chance on his athleticism and he could prove to be a dependable back-up. But I agree that he wasn't a lotto talent.

    He wasn't even a guy that "busted". He didn't show high promise and then fall flat in the NBA. He just never showed enough promise to justify a high lotto pick.
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    The 2011 draft was embarrassing. I don't know if we'll see a draft that bad ever again.

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    Apparently you aren't old enough to remember 1986....

    I'd rate 2011 better than that year or 2000.

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    The 2011 draft was embarrassing. I don't know if we'll see a draft that bad ever again.
    Well, 2000 draft was one of the worst drafts ever if you were aware of that. And some of the 2011 draftees are doing well right now (Irving, Leonard, Faried), so it's not that bad.

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    2011 draft was fine. It's premature to write some of those guys off. Just glancing at that list, there are roughly 15 guys I still see as likely long term starters or high rotation players from that draft, including a likely superstar and several possible all stars.
    If Irving and Valanciunas keep getting injured, that draft will look much worse, but it's way too early right now.

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    Well, 2000 draft was one of the worst drafts ever if you were aware of that. And some of the 2011 draftees are doing well right now (Irving, Leonard, Faried), so it's not that bad.
    Valanciunas is a 2011 draftee as well.
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    More of Wade being dirty


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    Vesley is complete garbage he is an utter TWIG and he is 6'11 put some meat on boy
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