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    Stern is a total idiot all he cares about is the damn money

    Pop is the coach of the team not you David get off your high horse

    he can do whatever the hell he likes.
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    Maybe the NBA should've looked at the schedule, the Spurs are 4 games in 5 nights on the road, with a game on Saturday, while the Heat haven't played since Saturday. The Spurs should get some action against them but the NBA has some blame as well. I thought they looked deeply into schedules to make sure these sort of abberations don't happen. If Pop did play all his guys, all the Heat would do is try and run them out of the gym so it's a no win for Spurs.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    @WojYahooNBA: Stern has decided that Gregg Popovich sending four of his top five scorers home with a game left on long road trip violates league rules.


    All Pop is going to do next time is playing them all for a minute and then sit them.

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    @WojYahooNBA: Stern has decided that Gregg Popovich sending four of his top five scorers home with a game left on long road trip violates league rules.


    All Pop is going to do next time is playing them all for a minute and then sit them.
    It only wouldve been funnier if Pop had thrown the ultimate middle finger and just conceded the game to them, but the Heat would've been pissed as that's a game lost of money for stadium.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

    ----------------- Reggie Miller

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    At the end of the day he can do whatever he wants.How are they gonna punish him?On what grounds?Has he signed a contract with the league that says he must field every night his best team?
    Don't get me wrong, it sucks for those who will attend the game but typically has he violated any rule?
    And that's the point. Popovich hasn't violated any rule, and he shouldn't be punished. Is Stern going to retroactively "sanction" the Warriors last season for blatantly tanking to get a better draft pick?

    And let's put this scenario out there, because this is what Pop will do next time. He could have started Parker, Ginobili, Green, Diaw, and Duncan. And right after tipoff, he'd send Mills, Splitter, Bonner, and De Colo to the bench. One of Parker, Ginobili, Green, or Duncan would take a foul, he'd sit them out, and not play them again the rest of the night.

    Is that "illegal"? Isn't that arguably worse, to play players 10 seconds and sit them out for the rest of the game? Is Stern going to tell Popovich how to coach and handle his players minutes?

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    Pop getting punished is in the name of the all-mighty dollar. We all talk about "schedule losses" and that's all Pop did. He ate the loss because he wanted his best players to keep the miles off.

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    I think this topic probably deserves its own thread. It's pretty fascinating. It would be so awesome if the spurs win tonight.

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    It's pretty interesting that the Spurs are holding on to the Heat. Maybe Pop's decision wasn't as bad as Stern shows them to be.

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    Even Neal knows how to shoot the floater.

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    SA has to be the only team in the league that can play backup players like this, any other team gets destroyed by Miami.

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    I'm loving this bench players AND BORIS DIAW tonight, how they do it?

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    Barkley is awesome on commentary

    get him on more often
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    Damn Ray Allen

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    Love how miami are celebrating like they won a playoff game

    lmao
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    Stupid Neal :

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    Even Neal knows how to shoot the floater.
    I'm pretty sure that every guard that plays at the Spurs for more than 2 years knows how to hit the floater. Tony must be an amazing teacher

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    Klay Thompson is really good wow.

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    I'm starting to get the crow ready for some people around here.


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    One month into the season, Anderson Varejao is All-Star worthy.

    "He's the best center in the NBA right now; by far the best in the Eastern Conference," said Cavaliers coach Byron Scott.

    Even if you don't entirely agree with Varejao's coach, it's hard to argue with the numbers.

    The 6-foot-11 wild man is averaging a career-high 14.5 points. He leads the NBA at 14.9 rebounds per game. That included a whopping 22 boards against Memphis, which features two monsters of its own in Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph.

    In Varejao's 14 games, he's grabbed at least 15 rebounds 10 times -- and at least 17 six times. But the man they call Wild Thing has always been an enthusiastic chaser of missed shots and loose balls. This is nothing new.

    What's impressive is Varejao's production on offense. Some might call it unexpected.

    "We don't (feature) him one bit at the offensive end, and he's averaging 14, nearly 15, points a night," Scott said.

    The coach paused, perhaps in amazement, before adding that Varejao is one of the few players Scott actually had to tell to shoot more.

    "That's a first," Scott said. "I've had to tell a lot of guys not to shoot, but I told him, ‘You play so hard I think you deserve to take shots.'"

    Amazingly, Varejao is nearly automatic from the elbow, setting his feet, squaring up and following through. There was a time, and not long ago, that the idea of Varejao taking (and making) 15-footers was unthinkable -- and even frowned upon.

    "He's always had the energy. The thing we've worked on the past couple years is just telling him to shoot when he's open," Scott said. "He's always made them in practice. This year, he has a lot more confidence. He's taking shots when he has them."

    At the beginning of the year, Scott handed out index cards to the players used to define their roles. Varejao's list was simple.

    "Defend, rebound, shoot," Scott said. "He's been able to do those three things, obviously, on a night-to-night basis."

    Over time, Scott also learned Varejao is "a heck of a passer." Not something anyone expected from a guy who's all arms, legs and crazy hair.

    But these days, there are times the Cavs' offense actually runs through Varejao -- who acts as somewhat of a facilitator near the top of the key. His passing is vital in the pick-and-roll offense, which drew praise from opposing coaches when point guard Kyrie Irving was healthy.

    Without Varejao, however, it would fizzle.

    "In practice, I got a pretty good idea that he had, No. 1, a very high basketball IQ, and No. 2, that he's a very willing passer," Scott said. "Nine out of 10 times, he's going to make good decisions with the ball."

    Star power

    How good has Varejao been? Good enough that Cavs fans (and some media members) publicly wonder if the team should trade him -- like, tomorrow. After all, his value has never been higher.

    The Cavs have no plans to make such a move at the moment, even if Varejao is an NBA old-timer at 30-years old. Not really, but that's what some folks seem to think.

    Of course, the problem is, most teams with interest in Varejao (read: contenders) don't really have the assets to match his productivity, either now or even the future. If they do, they're not willing to part ways with them. Not yet.

    That's fine by the Cavs, who feel Varejao can be a productive player for another six or seven seasons. Most big men in the NBA, after all, have that sort of basketball lifespan.

    As for the talk of the All-Star game, well, that's a bit premature, too.

    The Cavs have won just three of their first 15 games. No matter how good you are as an individual, it's tough to get voted in by coaches or fans when your team can't win. It doesn't matter if your team is young, or that it's unfairly spent a month of the season primarily on the road, or that it's been burdened with ridiculous back-to-backs.

    The people who do the voting see in black in white only -- or again, in wins and losses. So unless the Cavs pick it up considerably, the odds of Varejao making the All-Star team are decidedly against him.

    But that's OK by the Cavs. They know and appreciate his effort and value, how much he's improved, how he leads this young bunch by energetic example.

    In their eyes, he's already a star. And that's all that really matters to them.

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    If the spurs can score 100 points with their dilapidated roster last night, there is literally no excuse for our offensive putridity.

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    I'm starting to get the crow ready for some people around here.


    @SamAmicoFSO: Trade speculation, All-Star hopes surround Varejao, but Cavs like him right where he is. http://t.co/zPHUiYl9


    I don't remember any real opportunity for the Pacers to get Varejao. Not a single scenario that had anything other than fan wishlists involved.
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    I'm starting to get the crow ready for some people around here. /QUOTE]


    Good luck with that!

    Talk about production on a "8" mil contract. If the Pacers could only get that production from their off season re-signs!

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    I don't remember any real opportunity for the Pacers to get Varejao. Not a single scenario that had anything other than fan wishlists involved.
    I'm talking about people giving me crap for wanting to bring Varejao here and because I suggested that Hibbert was going to need to compete against him for the All Star game.

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    If the spurs can score 100 points with their dilapidated roster last night, there is literally no excuse for our offensive putridity.
    Yes but they weren't missing their best player ....... Oh wait ....

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    I don't know why people are surprised by Varejao. He was always capable of putting up big numbers. The only problem he has is that he is injury prone.

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    I don't remember any real opportunity for the Pacers to get Varejao. Not a single scenario that had anything other than fan wishlists involved.

    The issue is some posters wanted Andy for the last few years, while other posters felt Varejao wasn't much of a player. The crow comment was for those that felt Varejao wasn't much of a player, and ridiculed the notion he'd be a player that could help the Pacers. Those that didn't want Varejao felt he was nothing but a Foster engery bench player.

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