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    This is a pretty awesome read if you've got the time. Huge 130 page preview of the season by a variety of writers. Really fun stuff.

    http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012...preview-guide/

    I thought this part of the Pacers preview was pretty interesting:

    Freakish Numbers And I Don’t Mean That Dirty Number 8 by Eric Maroun

    985.97.

    Is it an obscure number? Yes. However, 985.97 was a crucial number to the Pacers season last year. 985.97 was partially responsible for the run that Indiana made in the playoffs which died out shortly following them taking a 2-1 series lead on the Chris Bosh-less Miami Heat. Most importantly, it’s a number that is most likely not repeatable in the 2012-13 season. So what does it represent?
    Per BasketballValue.com, The Pacers main starting lineup of Darren Collison, Paul George, Danny Granger, David West, and Roy Hibbert were on the floor together for 985.97 regular season minutes last year, by far the most common lineup put out on the court by any team in the league. For comparison’s sake, here are the next four most common lineups:

    - PHX: Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Jared Dudley, Channing Frye, Marcin Gortat – 744.88 minutes
    - LAC: Chris Paul, Randy Foye, Caron Butler, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan – 648.20 minutes
    - OKC: Russell Westbrook, Thabo Sefolosha, Kevin Durant, Serge Ibaka, Kendrick Perkins – 610.27 minutes
    - MIA: Mario Chalmers, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Joel Anthony – 516.95 minutes

    What does it mean? It means that the Pacers were ridiculously, unbelievably, unfathomably healthy last season. All five players mentioned played in at least 60 regular season games with George and West appearing in all 66 regular season contests and Hibbert checking in for 65 of them. While the Pacers are the sexy pick to win the Central Division due to competing with young Pistons and Cavs teams, a still-at-least-a-year-away Bucks team, and Derrick Rose-less for half the year Bulls squad, wondering if they can match last year’s success is a valid concern.

    Darren Collison was traded away for Ian Mahinmi, leaving George Hill as the starting point guard on the team. Hill played in 50 games last year, with most of the games he missed coming due to a stress fracture he suffered in his ankle. David West is still less than two years removed from a devastating ACL tear in his left knee that he sustained while in New Orleans, which is always a concern. And Roy Hibbert, despite a clean bill of health thus far during his four year career, did not get any smaller in the offseason meaning he will once again be putting about 280 pounds of stress on that 7’2” frame of his. While this is obviously not a guarantee of an injury for the big man, it’s at the very least a recipe for one in the future.

    Basketball, maybe more than any other sport, is a game built on familiarity with those on your team. Being able to anticipate where a teammate’s shot is going to miss so you can be in position for the rebound, knowing when someone is going to make a backdoor cut so you can time your pass correctly, and consistently feeding a three-point shooter in the perfect spot to allow him to catch and shoot in one fluid motion is what separates the average teams from the good teams and the good from the great. While duplicating their healthy 2011-12 campaign is unlikely, I suppose it’s possible. The Pacers better hope so; the success of their season may be riding on it.
    Yet another article that mentions how healthy we were, and how they don't think we can duplicate it. Funny thing is, outside of Tyler's vertigo issue, I can't remember any of our key players missing extended time over the last few years. Here's to another healthy season!

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    I can't help but think a big reason for the minutes together is the platooning of line-ups instead of mixing land matching like most teams do.

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    Which is something that would be easy to miss in the NBA if you don't watch the Pacers regularly. On a game-to-game basis, it either looks like a really bad (most nights) or a really good coaching decision to keep the whole bench in like that. When you look at lineups of 3 to 4 players at a time I think that the league gets much closer to the Pacers. This is based on my memory of when i was stat crunching at the end of last season, so don't quote that as solid. :P

    I also think another thing most writers miss is that none of our starters really play extended minutes that often. So even in the condensed season the amount of wear and tear on the bodies of our guys was about the same as those who had missed time due to being injured.

    And how we made our playoff run using a different linuep than the one that played 985.97 minutes together.

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    WTF is this craziness? I seriously cannot seem to find the meaning behind the metaphor.
    I take it to mean that we're not very exciting, but we should get to where we're going.
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    I also think another thing most writers miss is that none of our starters really play extended minutes that often. So even in the condensed season the amount of wear and tear on the bodies of our guys was about the same as those who had missed time due to being injured.
    A very good point. I do think we've been lucky with injuries, but some part of it is by design thanks to our deep rotation. That part at least isn't going to change, I think.

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    A very good point. I do think we've been lucky with injuries, but some part of it is by design thanks to our deep rotation. That part at least isn't going to change, I think.
    good point. Maybe Frank was on to something with all those egg-timer/hockey line substitutions.

    I wonder how that will change with the regular 82 game season.

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    Absolutely it was by design. Vogel specifically said, multiple times, that he was using a deeper rotation in order to minimize injuries.

    Sure, there's some luck involved, but some planning as well.
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    Absolutely it was by design. Vogel specifically said, multiple times, that he was using a deeper rotation in order to minimize injuries.

    Sure, there's some luck involved, but some planning as well.
    Which is why I hope they go 10 deep, a sub at each position, getting a decent amount of minutes. I really do believe the only way the Pacers can continue to build on last season is for everyone to stays healthy. Just have to be smart about it...and make sure you have a great strength and conditioning team.
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    ... and your young end of bench players get some time to develop at the sametime aswell. This is all good for the regular season and I would like to see it continued, but really hope we switch to another system in the postseason or near the postseason.
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    I agree with him it's highly unlikely that a lineup of Collison, George, Granger, West, Hibbert plays 985.97 minutes together this season or is the most played lineup in the NBA. So he is 100% right on at least one thing.

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    Yah, what's funny is that our best lineup, which included Hill, actually didn't get as much time together. We could easily make the case that we underperformed because our best PG missed so much time.

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